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    DD6 has been diagnosed with Tourette Syndrome. In connection with this diagnosis, she was referred for a neuropsychological assessment to the Learning and Emotional Assessment Program (LEAP) at Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) in Boston. Attention is the primary question but we have questions about processing speed and executive function as well.

    We�ve been told that DD is likely 2e. For many reasons, we�d love if an evaluation of giftedness could be part of the same assessment. It�s my understanding that it is best to work with professionals who are experienced in working with gifted children. With that in mind, we�re trying to determine whether LEAP is a good avenue for testing or whether we should ask DD�s neurologist about exploring other options.

    With that background, could I please ask:

    Does neuropsychological assessment necessarily include an IQ/WISC component?

    Can anyone share an opinion as to whether the program at MGH would do a good job evaluating giftedness? We start from the perspective that the professionals at MGH are at the top of their field. Is that enough?

    Am I misunderstanding how all of this testing works and asking the wrong questions?

    Thank you in advance for any thoughts.

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    Originally Posted by KLD
    Does neuropsychological assessment necessarily include an IQ/WISC component?
    Generally, yes: http://www.massgeneral.org/psychiatry/services/leap_first.aspx
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    Can anyone share an opinion as to whether the program at MGH would do a good job evaluating giftedness? We start from the perspective that the professionals at MGH are at the top of their field. Is that enough?
    I've also had good impressions of the MGH program, having read a few of their evals, as well as spoken to some of their neuropsych and neurology associates.

    Some of their people could be considered at the top of their field, but as in almost every hospital program, much of the direct testing will be done by psych interns, who usually have completed their doctorates, but need a year or so of supervised field experience prior to licensure. Supervisors do review the testing, and provide guidance on interpretation. It is, of course, competitive to be placed at places like MGH or BCH as an intern, so these are usually pretty sharp doctoral-level psychologists, if young.
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    Am I misunderstanding how all of this testing works and asking the wrong questions?
    I think you're doing a good job. Keep asking questions, and make sure you view your intake interview with the team wherever you choose to go as an interview not only to provide them with information for the eval, but also as an interview to probe for their appropriateness for evaluating your child. Don't be afraid to ask for a different evaluator, if you or your DD feel uncomfortable with the one assigned.


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    Welcome to the forums KLD. aeh gave you great advice, and I don't have anything to add re MGH (I am not familiar with them specifically). The one thing I would add, as the parent of two 2e children: I wouldn't overthink or worry specifically about finding an evaluator who specializes in gifted children. We don't have gifted specialists in our area, but we did get the information we needed re giftedness from our children's neuropsych evals, and equally, if not more importantly, we got detailed information on their challenges, a plan for the path forward re how to accommodate and remediate, and recommendations for the follow-up therapies etc that ultimately, once followed, made it possible for my 2e kiddos to reach their potential and participate in gifted programs etc.

    The absolutely most valuable thing coming out of our choice of a neuropsych was *local* - because the psych was familiar with local schools, local OTs/SLPs/etc and could make good solid recommendations of what to follow up with school vs what to seek out privately and through which practice etc. We also found it useful having a local neuropsych when we needed to have a follow-up for our ds when he entered middle school.

    I'm not sure we would have gained anything by specifically seeking out a gifted specialist. I realize that may not match other people's experience on these forums, but I would consider looking at your concern from inside-out. While a psych who specializes in evaluating gifted children would have the edge in terms of experience in evaluating a larger # of gifted children, they might not have a wide experience in evaluating children with special needs such as Tourette's. Realistically, when our 2e kids are young, we need the most help with how to address the 2nd e, and that's where going with a local children's hospital or local expert can really be beneficial.

    Best wishes,

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    aeh and polarbear, thanks very much for your replies. I'm grateful to both of you for responding and sharing your insights.

    polarbear, I�ve been thinking about what you said and you make important points about the value of working with folks who have experience with T.S., and the importance of understanding/addressing 2nd e�s. The diagnosis is new; we�re still trying to get our bearings. I�m glad to have received your advice early on.

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    aeh and polarbear, thanks very much for your replies. I'm grateful to both of you for responding and sharing your insights.

    polarbear, I�ve been thinking about what you said and you make important points about the value of working with folks who have experience with T.S., and the importance of understanding/addressing 2nd e�s. The diagnosis is new; we�re still trying to get our bearings. I�m glad to have received your advice early on.

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