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This is not a big deal. Just curious.
A trapezoid has an area of 108 m2. Base 1 is 12 meters and base 2 is 15 meters. What is the height?
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Sixth grade for my DD, though the curriculum has changed since then so not sure if that is still where it would be covered.
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CCSS puts it at 6th grade. Specifically:
CCSS.Math.Content.6.G.A.1 Find the area of right triangles, other triangles, special quadrilaterals, and polygons by composing into rectangles or decomposing into triangles and other shapes; apply these techniques in the context of solving real-world and mathematical problems.
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I agree that finding the area of a trapezoid seems to be 6th grade material by current standards, but what about the algebra needed for this one?
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They do a lot of algebra before the subject called algebra.
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For my DD, this type of problem was not unusual. I believe our math curriculum used this type of thinking fairly early on, though personally I don't think I would consider it to be learning algebra. I actually have strong memories of the trapezoid/parallelogram/rhombus unit because it was a particularly good one, where DD worked in a small group where they were asked to derive the formulas, based on what they had learned about other shapes. She loved it, and still talks about it.
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I'm not very mathy, I admit. I also have not been paying much attention to the math book! But to solve that problem, you solve for x, and it's not, you know, 2x =10. If that isn't algebra, what is it? (BTW, my DD could do it, but AFAIK she's still quite a ways away from "algebra," depending on what math course she tests into.)
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I guess I don't know, but perhaps it's semantics, or maybe it's just me. Don't kids in early elementary often solve for unknowns using manipulatives and such? I know some people get excited that their second grader is doing algebra, I guess I sort of reserve that term for the actual course, while of course the concepts and groundwork may begin much earlier.
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Well, I don't consider it algebra when my 1st grader answers x + 1 = 10, although it's intended to lay the groundwork, just as you say. I'd consider solving 108 = 1/2h(27) to be different, though you could do it by trial and error. However, my DD did it the traditional way. It doesn't really matter. I was just curious because I didn't expect this in her current course and wondered if it was a Common Core change.
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