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My children have been in a small private school with relatively small class sizes. aeh has summed up the things to think through re the program well - I'll add a few things that I'd suggest you look into re the school itself.

It's important to not just look at the academics, but with small private schools you'll also want to look at the business side of things. Being a small school may be great, but I'd ask these questions of the school:

1) What is their goal for # of students / grade and goal for # of students in school?

2) Why, after 10 years in operation, do they only have 10 enrolled students?
Honestly I think the reason is they are in a very small building and don't really have the space to have more than 30 students. It's been this way for the entire 10 years they have been in operation.

3) What are the admissions requirements (actually ask, don't just rely on what their website says or what first is told to you). If there is testing involved or required test scores, go ahead and ask if all of the students currently enrolled had the required test scores.

I don't think students have to have a certain score on a test to get in, but they do test with the Woodcock Johnson to determine placement.

4) Ask how many students they had last year, and ask what their yearly turn-over rate is, and why students/families leave the school.

I don't have an answer for this but the director did tell me they had one student who left last year because her family moved 45 min away and they thought they'd enroll her at her local school. It turned out to be a horrible fit so they now drive to this private school everyday. I also have a friend who had a friend whose son went to the school last year and loved it. He doesn't go this year because he moved out of state.

5) How long has the head of school been in place? How long has most of the staff been teaching at the school? You're trying to judge turn-over here.
This is actually a concern of mine, while meeting with the director I learned that they lost quite a few teachers last year.

6) They may not answer this, but I'd ask anyway - how much do they pay their teachers relative to your local public schools?

7) Do they rent or own the building they are in? How long is their lease? Have they been in the same location for the past 10 years?

8) Who is on their Board of Directors? Is it primarily parents? Community members? A mix?

9) How does their tuition compare with other local private schools? If it is significantly higher or lower, ask why. This is a good set of data to have - if you don't know what other schools are charging for tuition, check into it - this is info you can often find online.

Their tuition is actually a bit pricier than that of other private schools in the area. I would say about 10-20% more expensive.

10) How do their teachers' salaries compare with teachers' salaries in your local school district?

11) What percentage of the school's budget goes to teacher's salaries vs school supplies vs building expenses vs marketing? (They might not share that info with you, but it is interesting info to have).

12) Where does the money required to run the school come from? Obviously part of the money comes from tuition, but with such a small school tuition alone isn't going to be anywhere near enough (unless it's exorbitant tuition, which would most likely price the school out of business). What percentage comes from fundraising, and what are the expectations on each family for giving expectations and for helping with fundraising.


A few other things I'd consider asking:

1) How does this school's curriculum compare to your state's curriculum standards and your local school district's curriculum?

2) If it's a school for lower grades (no secondary or high school), I'd ask where the kids who leave go to high school typically, and how they fit in, what the issues are etc.

The director said most students go to a very prestigious private high school about 30 minutes from here.

3) What is the educational background of the teachers? Which teachers will your child be working with?

Most of the teachers have a masters in Education/curriculum.

Please know that none of my questions above are meant to be discouraging - the info is good to have. I've been involved with three different private schools, two of which had significant financial challenges that were definitely not advertised to prospective families Also please know - it's very possible to have a school that looks horrible in terms of financial set-up, yet is an excellent school day-to-day for students. The risk is - what happens if a school goes under and your child has to switch tools again.

Good luck making your decision!

polarbear

30 kids k through 8 means 4 is a actually a large class. How many teachers do they have to teach so few children, and are they qualified between them to teach such a large age range in all required subjects? Can they demonstrate experience in teaching HG (as opposed it bright to MG) children? What is the population they serve like - will your dd have peers? 4 is an awfully small number to find someone to click with. Can she shadow, or enrol for a trial period? If you do enrol her, what is your financial commitment if things go downhill - and in such a tiny school, it sounds as if things could go from great to horrible pretty fast. Her one true peer leaving could be it. And if she does have to leave the school, what are her options?

I have suspicions that dd may have Asperger's and one benefit of the gifted program she is in is they have a social worker that comes to the class and works on social skills with the students. Dd even told me that she finds the social skills class very helpful and told me that she relates to the "Unwonderer" character

That character seems to come from the Social Thinking website. Have you discussed your concerns about Asperger's with the small private school? Might they also offer social skills support?

Actually when I toured the small private school I was describing dd, her interests, etc... and the director flat out asked if she has ever been evaluated for Asperger's. They said they have a student with Asperger's already (a girl). I didn't go into too much detail as to how they handle social skills. I was going to wait and see how dd likes the school first.