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    binip #203358 10/14/14 09:54 AM
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    I wonder way this is not front-page news in US ...



    Originally Posted by "Americans Think We Have the World’s Best Colleges. We Don’t."
    "As with the measures of K-12 education, the United States battles it out for last place, this time with Italy and Spain. Countries that traditionally trounce America on the PISA test of 15-year-olds, such as Japan and Finland, also have much higher levels of proficiency and skill among adults."

    "... Piaac suggests that the wide disparities of knowledge and skill present among American schoolchildren are not ameliorated by higher education. If anything, they are magnified. In 2000, American 15-year-olds scored slightly above the international average. Twelve years later, Americans who were about 12 years older scored below the international average."

    "This reality should worry anyone who believes — as many economists do — that America’s long-term prosperity rests in substantial part on its store of human capital. The relatively high pay of American workers will start to erode as more jobs are exposed to harsh competition in global labor markets. It will be increasingly dangerous to believe that only our K-12 schools have serious problems."

    madeinuk #203361 10/14/14 10:09 AM
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    Originally Posted by madeinuk
    Tuition fees verboten

    Excuse the comic book German...

    "But what if our flagships could offer a different, deeply discounted “package” for commuter students who simply don’t want all those stupid amenities? I’m not even saying it should be free—this isn’t and will never be the socialized idyll/hellhole (depending on your point of view) that is the Federal Republic. But maybe, just maybe, we should find a way to make public education here a better bargain than round-trip airfare to Munich."

    What a crazy idea!

    madeinuk #217729 06/05/15 05:32 AM
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    Interestingly, the article gives a capitalist explanation for the reasoning behind offering free college:
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    "Even if people don't pay tuition fees, if only 40% stay for five years and pay taxes we recover the cost for the tuition and for the study places so that works out well."

    The relative austerity of college life, tendency for students to commute, immediate declaration of major, and lack of college advising (as cited in this article) may help explain the cost-effectiveness of the academics offered.

    For admissions, it appears a high school diploma from the USA may gain entry into their preparatory program, whereas a bachelor's degree or higher may qualify for direct general admission.

    There is no mention of diversity, demographic quotas, or closing achievement gaps.

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    From June 3rd, BBC article "How US students get a university degree for free in Germany" - http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32821678?post_id=10204472521873542_10204472521833541#_=_ - gives a good breakdown of the costs, etc. involved.


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