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In fact most of the thread that I've read so far is also kind of over the top, to me Yikes is what I am thinking while reading this thread myself. And perhaps I shouldn't resurrect this thread since it is on the second page, but I am quite appalled at some of the things here. Arms races are all about WINNING! Appallation is a natural human response to certain aspects of WINNING! Perhaps for those for whom "winning" is a zero sum game. For tennis? Sure. For education? Doesn't have to be, and I, at least, don't see why it has become such. Because Harvard only accepts a certain number of students every year. The rest of the student population is relegated to the dark and musty underplaces where they have to wear an inverted scarlet H for the rest of their lives.
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Because Harvard only accepts a certain number of students every year.
The rest of the student population is relegated to the dark and musty underplaces where they have to wear an inverted scarlet H for the rest of their lives. Hmm, and what exactly does an inverted H look like?  Chasing the end result is different than what much of this thread discussed, though.
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Appallation is a natural human response to certain aspects of WINNING! I thought that was a natural geological response to plate tectonics?
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Appallation is a natural human response to certain aspects of WINNING! I thought that was a natural geological response to plate tectonics? Not funny at all. As you already know, "Plate tectonics" is a pernicious rumor that was started by the Rotterdam branch of the Illuminati during the 1960's.
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But don't you see the verbal bias in your thoughts? I do know an incredibly smart young girl who has tested in the 145 range for IQ, and she would NOT meet your standards because she doesn't like discussions. She would be perfectly happy with a one on one tutor in school, no peer group required. She also doesn't do much beyond what is asked of her, so she wouldn't be one of those kids pushing the class higher, despite her LOG.
Some of what you and others are describing here is more attributable to a highly verbal, socially secure individual who wants to engage others, rather than actual LOG. Okay-- but also presumably, this child would not be objecting or whining if the level of the teaching/discussion in the class were more commensurate with her potential, either. The issue is when students who don't really care about the depth of the class, or the intellectual opportunities offered, are there merely to rack up another notch somewhere-- either they care or their parents do-- and they ACTUALLY are most interested in the easiest route to an A.
Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.
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In fact most of the thread that I've read so far is also kind of over the top, to me Yikes is what I am thinking while reading this thread myself. And perhaps I shouldn't resurrect this thread since it is on the second page, but I am quite appalled at some of the things here. Arms races are all about WINNING! Appallation is a natural human response to certain aspects of WINNING! Perhaps for those for whom "winning" is a zero sum game. For tennis? Sure. For education? Doesn't have to be, and I, at least, don't see why it has become such.That's actually a point of profound agreement in pretty much everyone who has posted in this thread thus far. The problem is that it has become like that.
Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.
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Because Harvard only accepts a certain number of students every year.
The rest of the student population is relegated to the dark and musty underplaces where they have to wear an inverted scarlet H for the rest of their lives. Hmm, and what exactly does an inverted H look like? Chasing the end result is different than what much of this thread discussed, though. Well, aside from the flippant commentary which comes and goes, I think that "chasing" the rare end results is precisely what it's all about. It's about "winning" and to do so, beating others.
Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar. And doesn't.
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Because Harvard only accepts a certain number of students every year.
The rest of the student population is relegated to the dark and musty underplaces where they have to wear an inverted scarlet H for the rest of their lives. Hmm, and what exactly does an inverted H look like? Chasing the end result is different than what much of this thread discussed, though. Well, aside from the flippant commentary which comes and goes, I think that "chasing" the rare end results is precisely what it's all about. It's about "winning" and to do so, beating others.I think Monet was referring to the fact that an H looks the same whether it's right side up or upside down. It's got that symmetry thing going on.
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Yes, but can you name those axes/operations? 
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Yes, but can you name those axes/operations? Fred, George, Ron, and Percy. Now we can all stop worrying about zero sum games, because I just won the thread.
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