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Um, yeah. Presumably you have similar privacy rules there as here, though? If a new student comes to me as their tutor and wants to change subject, then if the bureaucracy (places, qualifications) works, they can, and noone will tell their parents if they don't; indeed, I'm specifically not allowed to give a student's parent information about them (any more than I would give it to random member of the public). Problem is, the kids expect and like the over involvement. Of course they do. While our generation started dealing with teachers when we were five, these kids have had their parents do it for them their whole lives. It's scary the first time. http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/201...-lives/mfYvA5R9IhRpJytEbFpxUP/story.html
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Academia is also a pretty cushy berth once tenure is attained You're not a tenured academic, are you?
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Academia is also a pretty cushy berth once tenure is attained You're not a tenured academic, are you? This is a commonly held view outside academia but is disputed within it, not surprisingly: http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2014/01/07/the-least-stressful-jobs-of-2014/The Least Stressful Jobs of 2014 by Susan Adams Forbes January 7, 2014 Of the hundreds of stories I’ve posted on Forbes.com, none has generated a greater number of comments than my write-up last year of Careercast.com’s list of least stressful jobs. I started my piece by describing the life of a typical university professor, which CareerCast ranked as the least stressful job in America. I said it was nearly devoid of pressure and full of long breaks from the grind. Professors get vacations at Christmas and over the summer and they don’t spend too many hours in the classroom, I wrote. I based my claims on an interview with CareerCast publisher Tony Lee, a conference with my editor and anecdotal evidence from several tenured professors I happen to know. What I didn’t do was interview dozens of professors to check my claims. The comments wound up doing that for me.
I got such a startling number—569—that I wound up writing an addendum pointing out that many professors find their jobs extremely stressful.
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Law professors (non-T14) are under severe stress right now.
Massive decline in enrollment will do that to you.
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Academia is also a pretty cushy berth once tenure is attained You're not a tenured academic, are you? No, I work for a living ;-)
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FWIW, I've not known a single faculty member in STEM who worked less than a 50 hour week-- year round, with about three weeks off (total) during that year. Sounds like working to me.
Tenure-track, my work week was more like what Med students expect during residency. 70hr+. So sure, it felt 'nice' to get tenure and revert back to a mere 50-60. Sure.
IN industry, DH works less than that and earns twice as much.
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FWIW, I've not known a single faculty member in STEM who worked less than a 50 hour week-- year round, with about three weeks off (total) during that year. Sounds like working to me.
Tenure-track, my work week was more like what Med students expect during residency. 70hr+. So sure, it felt 'nice' to get tenure and revert back to a mere 50-60. Sure.
IN industry, DH works less than that and earns twice as much. I think it depends on the school and the discipline. I'm not positive that my father in law worked more than 20 hours a week for the past 10 years before retiring. A lot of engineering professors also consult on the side.
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I think it depends on the school and the discipline. Agreed but I don't think 50-60 hour weeks are especially onerous.
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I think it depends on the school and the discipline. Agreed but I don't think 50-60 hour weeks are especially onerous. I suspect that 50-60 hour weeks are generally unhealthy.
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I work about 40 hours most weeks. The most time consuming thing I do is research. I think in academia it depends on where you want to work and what your ambitions are in terms of work hours etc.. My dad was a surgeon and chief of surgery at a major hospital for a while, he averaged about an 80 hour work week. He was well paid overall but I think when we calculated it one time he made just over minimum wage (per hour worked). Medicine is extremely stressful and quickly getting more so (especially in the US). DD could eventually decide to go that route but I would not encourage it.
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