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    Forgive me because I haven't read the entire thread, but pediatric anxiety and depression often present with the symptoms you describe - sleep disturbances, distractibity, and irritability (note depressed kids rarely- I mean very rarely- seem sad, but rather irritable). A screening by a pediatrician is a good idea, but honestly is takes a therapist a good long session (often multiple sessions) to diagnose such problems. 15 minutes with a ped isn't enough to diagnose ADHD, anxiety, or depression.

    This might be way off base, but I wanted to mention it.

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    In our region 5 year olds have a legally required nap or at least quiet time during the day. That's normal, some kids still need a nap at 5.
    DS6 has had trouble adjusting to no down time plus homework in 1st. His teacher was not understanding about not doing homework. Luckily in our district part time homeschool is allowed. We now keep him home the first 2 hours of the day, he wasn't learning anything then anyways. He now does no homework except the occasional short project ( all homework was derived from the subjects he gets at home so now it's up to us).
    I would at least ask the teacher how long she estimates homework should take. If she answers 10 min, then cut it off then. They may be underestimating the time.

    You know your child better than the one size fits all system does, don't be afraid to firmly do whatever needs to be done. Whether its dropping off late, doing no further homework, etc. This is kindergarten and how a child feels about it is their foundation or lack thereof for the years to come.


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    Originally Posted by Polly
    In our region 5 year olds have a legally required nap

    How draconian! What's the punishment for children who don't comply with this legal requirement?

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    hnz1979, I am coming back to this a bit late but fwiw - here are a few thoughts for you:

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    Thanks everyone.
    The school is doing IQ testing based on the extremely low scores he got from our psych. His overall IQ scored at 82, with a very low processing score. The principal was very disturbed by this. She said at minimum Zach should be at 100. (She feels he is highly intelligent.) Especially since he is excelling at reading and was formerly in one of the higher functioning class rooms and doing well academically. They will be doing observations also. Everyone that knows our ds comments about how bright he is. Teachers that know our ds say no way is that IQ score correct.

    I'm so glad your school is willing to look further and do additional testing - it sounds like his teachers and school staff really care, and that's wonderful!

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    I do think he has attention issues. Our biggest hurdle is that ds thinks he knows everything so it's hard to explain school work because of battles.

    This happened with my younger 2e dd (still does). The "knowing everything" (for her) was a combo of both self-confidence in a bit of a twisted way (shd couldn't see that other people might have equally valid ideas) *and* insecurity that she might not know something correctly - and that part (jmo) seemed to be driven by her feverishly attempting to not let the world know she was struggling with a challenge.

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    There could be some working memory issues, but it's hard to tease out.

    Your ds is in school, but he's still very young. It really *is* difficult to tease out challenges and what's up when our children are so young. I realize this doesn't sound very helpful, but I wanted to reassure you that you're doing all the "right" things, and that as time goes by and you collect more data through observing, testing, talking to your ds etc - the issues will start to become clearer. It's a journey, not a one-stop-get-the-answer-and-move-on thing, but you will get to a place where what you are seeing now will make sense.

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    His handwriting skills are poor. He is just learning to write numbers but had 20 minutes of common core math last night.

    My first thought here is - of course his handwriting skills are poor! He's 5! I am surprised that any school would send home 20 minutes worth of math homework for a 5 year old - but... maybe the assignment wasn't supposed to last 20 minutes? His processing speed score was really low on his first round of ability testing (per your note above).. which might mean he's got a challenge impacting handwriting, and that in turn makes an assignment like this particularly frustrating and/or time consuming. Have you tried scribing for him at home? I would *not* be the slightest bit worried about either not having him do the homework, cutting it off at 10 minutes (which is what our district guidelines are for homework *maximum time* - 10 minutes per grade level), or scribing for him. In fact, I would be sure to try scribing based on what you've said about his handwriting issues just to see if there is a significant difference in either time spent or frustration with his work etc.

    Oops... I have more to say but have to go! More later smile

    Hang in there,

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