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Could somebody tell me what grade level these math skills are?

long division
double digit multiplication
perfect square roots
measuring angles
adding and subtracting fractions with common denominators

My 7 yo is doing 3rd grade math in her G&T class but chooses to do the above items independently. She says that her math lessons are still focusing on adding and subtracting (ie. 3 digits plus 3 digits but doing ballpark estimates because it's Everyday Math). She says she would much rather do division and multiplication.

ETA: the problem she is having in the 3rd grade math with EM are problems such as:

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1,903 ______

She also will do double digit subtracting in her head but when asked to solve 85-4 she will use her fingers. So I don't think the teacher will be open to further differentiation.

At our school, public in Research Triangle area of NC:

long division and dd multiplication would be 4th
haven't really delved into square roots except briefly at the end of 4th, expect more in 5th
measuring angles starting in 3rd
fractions are all late 4th, early 5th as are decimals and percentages

Shannon L.

My DD is in third grade (curriculum is Math Expressions) and so far she has done a lot on place value. They very briefly touched on multiplication at the end of second grade, but so far this year I haven't seen it at all. They did multi-digit addition/subtraction once again, a little on fractions, and they just finished a unit on angles and geometric shapes (like what is a rhombus, what is a scalene triangle, etc). I assume (I hope) that multiplication is still coming up...who knows when they will get to double digit multiplication. My younger DS is currently doing Singapore Math level 3A (I am assuming this is meant for third graders), and it has multiplication like 92X8 and long division like 207/9. It also has stuff on money, like what is $62.30-$8.70. Book 3B has a lot on measurement, like converting and adding Km, meters, etc. and also has a lot on fractions including adding fractions. Different curriculums do things in different orders. I am hoping my DS is not going to be ahead of my DD by the end of the school year, because he is 2 grade levels lower! But they are currently both doing grade 3 math (DD is supposedly doing enriched math as well as the regular math--at a 5th grade level using a calculator--but I haven't seen it).

We've been past this stuff for a bit, but my recollection from 2006-2011 is that these skills are taught in spiraling fashion--

probably 3rd-7th grades, with the majority of the instruction coming as follows:

long division- 3rd-4th
double digit multiplication--3rd, usually, and sometimes into 4th
perfect square roots-- 4th into 5th and 6th
measuring angles-- 4th through 6th
adding and subtracting fractions with common denominators-- 4th and 5th, and FINDING common denominators for this purpose, through 7th.


HTH.

I have DD in 4th who is working a year ahead in math (so she is doing 5th grade math for November right now). I forget what the math book is (I'm awful) but it is a common one. NOT Everyday Math.

For all three of my chidlren, all the listed topics were covered in 3rd grade GT math, which is a compaction of 3rd and 4th grade math, and revisited at a higher level in 4th grade GT (5th) and 5th grade GT (6th) My oldest, who was in a pilot program a decade ago, which failed to not last beyond that year, first covered simple long division and double digit multiplication at the end of second grade.

It is important to note that based on our current spiraling method of math instruction delivery, the answer to your question is actually it depends on what you mean. For example, in my oldest DS' second grade class, "long division" was easy problems with remainder such as 287/9 whereas "long division" was more along the lines of 349.75/6.8 for 5th grade GT math.

^ Exactly. This is why I gave a range, rather than a particular grade.

I know in the seventies I did long division in standard 4 (this was the then equivalent of 5th grade. I remember clearly because it is what destroyed my love for maths. I didn't get it back for 10 years.

You can look at what topics are included in the math curriculum in each grade, or you can look at what kinds of problems students in various grades are able to answer correctly. NAEP results were released recently, and a few sample questions are at http://www.joannejacobs.com/2013/11/nations-report-card-scores-inch-up/ , and lots of sample questions are at the NAEP site http://www.joannejacobs.com/2013/11/nations-report-card-scores-inch-up/ . You can also Google phrases such as "california math tests" to get questions from NCLB-mandated state tests.

I have two 8 yr olds in 3rd. They were doing 3 digit by 3 digit -/+ and looking ahead in the book, they will be reviewing area/perimeter next (covered last year), and going back to 2x2 digit multiplication with varying numbers.