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Anyway, I am hoping that now that a gifted support staff person will be more involved (I meet her on Monday) and DS will be given gifted pull-out (not sure if it starts this week or next)... it will get better.
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Given the cost of Montessori (hardly within the reach of a non high SES population) I think that you are dealing with a group that has already been taught the value of delayed gratification and self control at home.
Not your standard group of kids that age at all. I'm not trying to argue, because my point was not about Montessori vs. non-Montessori, but rather that appropriate level learning materials (i.e. reading books at the right level) can help keep kids out of trouble. Also, at least one of those boys definitely wasn't learning delayed gratification and self control at home. (He wasn't ours!) BTW, the cost of this particular school was not much higher than other daycare/preschool options in the area. I have heard that in some areas it is frighteningly expensive.
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Do you think children should obey their parents? I think they should, within limits. Within limits, I don't expect my son to obey me. I don't care to wander into the judging zone of extending that to all parents. I've found a trusting, open, communicative relationship belies the need for obedience. How can one adult keep order in a classroom of twenty children unless they are "compliant" or "obedient"? Through communication, rational intent, engagement, bi-directional trust building, and other tools used by effective leaders (though compliant drifts a bit away in concept as compared to obedient.) (bolds here to point out a couple of seeming problems in Irena's situation)
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Irena... I hope that you didn't think I was accusing your son of running amok, not at all! It sounds like a dreadful situation and I am crossing my fingers that the new books you brought help even things out for him.
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Do you think children should obey their parents? I think they should, within limits. Within limits, I don't expect my son to obey me. I don't care to wander into the judging zone of extending that to all parents. I've found a trusting, open, communicative relationship belies the need for obedience. How can one adult keep order in a classroom of twenty children unless they are "compliant" or "obedient"? Through communication, rational intent, engagement, bi-directional trust building, and other tools used by effective leaders (though compliant drifts a bit away in concept as compared to obedient.) (bolds here to point out a couple of seeming problems in Irena's situation) You said what I was trying to say, far better.
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To be clear - DS is not running amok in the classroom. He gets "in trouble" for wanting to do higher level work - read higher level books (or books at least interesting to him) and he wants to be able to move on in math... He is not running around wild, disobedient... he's just trying to keep learning and keep his mind engaged! Yeah-- I'm really not seeing how this is "disruptive" to anyone else. I might ask that, in fact.
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To the OP, I think that your idea of donating the books to the class is brilliant. I am speculating here - maybe the teacher needs to keep a score on how many books were read by each kid and your DS reading a book outside of her database which she uses to keep track might have disrupted her methods as well as made your DS "fall behind" in the number of "approved" books he has read. By donating the books, you enabled her to enter those titles into the tracking system she has so that she can now allow your DS to read them! (the rule sounds moronic when I typed it up, but it seems that these rules and procedures are very important in PS).
I feel for your kid.
Good for you that you are able to think outside the box for them! I am sure that you can buy stacks of used books and donate them to the classroom.
Another thought - as an "accomodation", my son's ex-school allowed him to read a book of his choice during "free play" time - the time between finishing their work and the start of the next activity. Would your son's teacher accept this suggestion?
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Irena... I hope that you didn't think I was accusing your son of running amok, not at all! It sounds like a dreadful situation and I am crossing my fingers that the new books you brought help even things out for him. Oh no not at all ! Totally understood what you were saying. .. I was just venting  more about the unfairness and silliness of it all!
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To be clear - DS is not running amok in the classroom. He gets "in trouble" for wanting to do higher level work - read higher level books (or books at least interesting to him) and he wants to be able to move on in math... He is not running around wild, disobedient... he's just trying to keep learning and keep his mind engaged! . Quite so. I apologise for helping to take your thread off on a tangent.
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No apologies necessary, people! I happy to hear all thoughts and digressions !
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