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    Ren-

    I think you would find my son's story very boring. He is completely non-competitive. He homeschooled, started community college classes at 16, then went off to a small liberal arts college at the typical age. He is PG, but has AS, which makes a lot of things most of us take for granted very hard for him.


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    I do not find it boring Lorel. I think that all experiences are enlightening. Actually looking at all situations and differences is what fuels me. Why it worked for me as analyst. I think his non-competitive nature and choices are particularly interesting as he chooses a path as a PG.

    Thank you.

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    Originally Posted by Cathy A
    Personally, I think the "ivies" are overrated and overpriced. I don't think it's all that important where you go for your undergraduate degree. I got my BS in math at Linfield College (have you ever heard of it?) and then received a full fellowship to UC Berkeley (a math powerhouse) for my PhD.

    You can get an excellent liberal arts education with lots of interesting travel and research opportunities for undergrads at Linfield. I know I sound like a commercial, but it is really a good deal!

    My DH went to Cal Poly after being in the army and was accepted into the math program at Berkeley as well.

    Cathy

    Cal Poly Pamona?

    The Ivies are way overrated no matter the degree. The big state schools are generally better (broader programs/lots of stuff going on ) for technical subjects and their Liberal Arts schools have more ideological diversity. And the professors are a lot more approachable.







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    Yes, approachable professors is a big asset in my book.

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    Originally Posted by Kriston
    The proficiency of the writing at the Ivy League was about the same as the level of writing of any incoming freshman, she said. No worse, yet not better enough to note either. Still, the majority of her students at the Ivy thought they were God's gift to writing and had nothing to learn. She said they were full of attitude, .

    I saw this when I was working on my MBA at a "top" school. The students were so full of themselves, but they had no mojo.

    I and another student ( a pit trader with a math degree ) jumped the stats sequence and ended up with a second year group in a follow-on class in securities analysis. He knew securities inside and out and I always ask a lot of questions. Because were were new, no one wanted us in their study groups.

    In the mid-semester presentations, we took every slide apart in every presentation of our classmates with the professor nodding her head as we went along. The mistakes were mostly simple ones. Most of the students could not answer detailed questions intelligently nor could they handle detailed lines of questioning. Some became defensive.

    That afternoon in the Men's room, one of the students stood next to me and said:

    "We in Class XXX stick together and look out for each other. We don't make others look bad in class."










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    Wow, that perception is unfortunately not uncommon yet troubling. The attitude of I know what I know and in the face of evidence to the contrary I will feel personally attacked.

    Very frustrating.

    I don't think there is anything wrong with attending an Ivy League School. I think it's great. I would argue that one cannot attribute future success to one single static factor.

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