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    I agree that differentiation is strongly teacher dependent. Some do it incredibly well and others just don't have it. This problem doesn't go away when you have a gt classroom -- you're just starting to differentiate from a different level.

    When my kids were in a regular classroom (now they are in a gt classroom), language arts seemed to be the area where differentiation was most successful. We were at a large elementary school (about 600 students, 80 -90 students per grade). They shifted kids around into ability-based reading groups across classrooms. We did not see effective differentiated instruction in math. We saw a lot of worksheets and go off in a corner to figure it out on your own with little to no teacher interaction.


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    Originally Posted by jack'smom
    Does anyone have experience in having differentiation in the classroom actually work well for their child? Our district currently has an excellent self-contained gifted classroom but there is pressure to change it into differentiation in the classroom.
    I think it won't work but I guess who knows. Our self-contained gifted class runs 1-2 grade level above the basic grade level.

    My DD had a mixture... a couple hours of a pull-out GT class that ran 1-2 grade levels above, and differentiation for the rest of the day in a regular classroom.

    It was a colossal failure.

    Of three teachers regular classroom teachers DD had, only one actually made a sincere effort to properly differentiate for her. But because she was so far outside of the group, that differentiation was haphazard at best. It was just too much for her to maintain all year long. The one child who needed an inordinate amount of her time was also the one child she didn't need to worry about come test time.

    In-class differentiation can work with small classes, where the teacher has the time to devote to those with highly individual needs. In a regular-sized class, they can only differentiate so much. As long as the child fits with group A, B, or C, they're fine. When they're the only member of group M, there's little the teacher can offer.

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    Originally Posted by polarbear
    Our experience has been the opposite, it didn't work out well - so my input is re the "gotchas". I think that our teachers thought differentiation meant letting the children work at their own pace on individual worksheets for math etc... and that worked out semi-ok (except that they weren't getting truly out-of-level instruction). Where the idea fell apart for my kids was in classroom discussions where the entire class was involved. My EG kiddo was beyond bored with the lack of depth in the discussion in science/history/etc, and my HG+ kiddo complained about how discussions never moved forward until everyone understood the concepts... which was (jmo) doubly a bad situation - not just that she was bored, but she became very frustrated with certain students who were usually the kids who needed a lot of repetition.

    My kids also were frequently frustrated with some of the kids they worked on in group projects. I don't actually mind group projects so much in that I think it's good for my kids to have to work occasionally with a child who isn't holding up their fair share of the work due to lack of motivation etc, but I did find it frustrating that they never really had a chance to work in groups of same-ability-level kids, which they would have more opportunities for better fit in a self-contained gifted classroom.

    I also think (and this is jmo based on a few classrooms)... that in a mixed-ability classroom, if it follows the typical bell curve, the vast majority of kids are going to of course be somewhere in the middle of abilities, and that was where the teachers' focus gravitated toward no matter how much the teacher truly wanted to differentiate.

    I do think it's possible for it to work (and worth trying)... but I agree with DeeDee that without a large investment in professional development, as well as buy-in from the teachers that it's worthwhile, it is not likely to work.

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    Yes-- all of this. But especially the bolded portion.

    Most of the time, in my experience, "in class differentiation" tends to wind up meaning that the kids who need advanced instruction/curriculum wind up getting that delivered as a reward for good citizenship and compliance with instruction BELOW their readiness level. That is, if you "behave" yourself, you'll get MORE work in the form of reading/math/etc worksheeets/individual projects which ARE at your level.



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