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    In today's evolutionary psychology lesson we yet again learn that when you are dealing with a brain that's evolved to deal with Dunbar's number in interpersonal relationships you have to use evolutionary psychology "logic" to solve this problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number

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    Originally Posted by smacca
    It's also a good skill to have when reading literature. I use the example of me reading Harry Potter (as an adult, reading children's literature at that) with my students: I had read the first TWO books before I thought to Google how to pronounce the name Hermione. I had been saying it wrong in my head all along, but because I could just sort of skip over it, it didn't affect my enjoyment or comprehension of the story.

    I didn't know how to pronounce it until I saw the first movie. It never even occurred to me that it might be a thing in the real world, with a correct pronunciation. But then, I've been a lifelong consumer of sci-fi and fantasy. Ridiculous made-up names are just part of the experience. I used to have friends I'd exchange/discuss these books with, and we'd have totally different pronunciations for the different characters and places. I'd stick with mine, and they'd stick with theirs.

    I'd still think Hermione was a made-up thing if I hadn't picked up The Odyssey at a yard sale.

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    I think there's value in teaching a student to deal with confusion. I seek out chances to intentionally confuse my kids, and let them sort things out on their own. If I wrote a textbook, I'd use all sorts of names, make up problems where all the persons' names started with the same letter, etc.

    Maybe that's why Age of Problem Solving appeals to me. I've always made DS7 noodle things out for himself, and it seems to stress that approach heavily. My experience is that, discussions of cognitive load aside, training a kid to handle whatever's thrown at them makes them stronger. A lot of it comes down to attitude.


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    Originally Posted by Dude
    Originally Posted by smacca
    It's also a good skill to have when reading literature. I use the example of me reading Harry Potter (as an adult, reading children's literature at that) with my students: I had read the first TWO books before I thought to Google how to pronounce the name Hermione. I had been saying it wrong in my head all along, but because I could just sort of skip over it, it didn't affect my enjoyment or comprehension of the story.

    I didn't know how to pronounce it until I saw the first movie. It never even occurred to me that it might be a thing in the real world, with a correct pronunciation. But then, I've been a lifelong consumer of sci-fi and fantasy. Ridiculous made-up names are just part of the experience. I used to have friends I'd exchange/discuss these books with, and we'd have totally different pronunciations for the different characters and places. I'd stick with mine, and they'd stick with theirs.

    I'd still think Hermione was a made-up thing if I hadn't picked up The Odyssey at a yard sale.


    I just thought, "Meh, those crazy Brits. I should look up how to pronounce that. OOH LOOK SOMETHING SHINY!" And then it just didn't happen.

    Now I'm wondering why the heck I've never read The Odyssey.

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    Originally Posted by Iucounu
    ...make up problems where all the persons' names started with the same letter, etc.


    My worst nightmare. I've figured out that I compensate for a lot of my attention-related memory "quirks" by remembering not entire words, but word patterns and initial letters. I'd get through multiple choice/matching vocab tests by remembering, "Oh, yeah, that's the long word that starts with a p and has a double consonant in the middle."

    It took me an embarrassingly long time to get mean/median/mode straight, not because I couldn't do the calculations, or because I didn't understand which was useful in which situation, but because THEY ALL START WITH M! YOU MEAN I HAVE TO REMEMBER THE WHOLE WORD?!

    Brain quirks, I have them.

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    Originally Posted by smacca
    My worst nightmare.
    Heh heh. Lots of us have these quirks. I think that no matter what, it's valuable to learn to work around them. Even people with really excellent, quirkless memories often use paper or electronic devices to extend their mental capacities, and learning to be effective that way isn't a bad thing. From that perspective I think that strategies such as replacing names with shorthand such as initials, transposing problems, etc. are not bad to practice, as long as they are not a useless crutch and result in greater accuracy.


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    Originally Posted by Dude
    Originally Posted by smacca
    It's also a good skill to have when reading literature. I use the example of me reading Harry Potter (as an adult, reading children's literature at that) with my students: I had read the first TWO books before I thought to Google how to pronounce the name Hermione. I had been saying it wrong in my head all along, but because I could just sort of skip over it, it didn't affect my enjoyment or comprehension of the story.

    I didn't know how to pronounce it until I saw the first movie. It never even occurred to me that it might be a thing in the real world, with a correct pronunciation. But then, I've been a lifelong consumer of sci-fi and fantasy. Ridiculous made-up names are just part of the experience. I used to have friends I'd exchange/discuss these books with, and we'd have totally different pronunciations for the different characters and places. I'd stick with mine, and they'd stick with theirs.

    I'd still think Hermione was a made-up thing if I hadn't picked up The Odyssey at a yard sale.


    This is the advantage of having developed early the habit of reading movie credits (and being...well, okay, old). Hermione Baddeley was a frequent Disney actress in the sixties.


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