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I'm not going to even try to debate whether or not you can improve IQ scores by prepping for the test, but since I was the poster who mentioned having a dd who tested gifted at 5 and since then has tested twice at a lower IQ, I wanted to add that in her case, there was no test prep - in fact, we weren't even taking her in for IQ testing, she had an unexpected IQ test as part of a psych work-up for anxiety.
rhondau, do you have the subtest scores from your dd's IQ test? If you do, are they all consistent across the board or are there any scattered highs and lows? Although it's not likely, your dd's experience mirrors my 2e ds' quite a bit - gifted traits at a young age, gifted IQ score at a young age, school performance doesn't match expectations based on ability, high anxiety experienced in early years of school. My ds was also in counseling for anxiety when he was in first grade. It took until the end of 2nd grade when what seemed like average performance in school slid into below level performance and his anxiety really *really* ramped up for us to take him to a neuropsych, and that's when we discovered he had a disability that was severely impacting his ability to function at school, and that was the source of his anxiety.
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I'm not going to even try to debate whether or not you can improve IQ scores by prepping for the test, but since I was the poster who mentioned having a dd who tested gifted at 5 and since then has tested twice at a lower IQ, I wanted to add that in her case, there was no test prep - in fact, we weren't even taking her in for IQ testing, she had an unexpected IQ test as part of a psych work-up for anxiety. FWIW I had no prep for mine either, which is why I find the topic interesting. I didn't take the WISC though - I was 20 something when I tested (with Mensa - not sure which tests they used - maybe Stanford Binet?) I honestly don't remember - it was, um, a few years ago ;p
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I'm not going to even try to debate whether or not you can improve IQ scores by prepping for the test, but since I was the poster who mentioned having a dd who tested gifted at 5 and since then has tested twice at a lower IQ, I wanted to add that in her case, there was no test prep - in fact, we weren't even taking her in for IQ testing, she had an unexpected IQ test as part of a psych work-up for anxiety.
rhondau, do you have the subtest scores from your dd's IQ test? If you do, are they all consistent across the board or are there any scattered highs and lows? Although it's not likely, your dd's experience mirrors my 2e ds' quite a bit - gifted traits at a young age, gifted IQ score at a young age, school performance doesn't match expectations based on ability, high anxiety experienced in early years of school. My ds was also in counseling for anxiety when he was in first grade. It took until the end of 2nd grade when what seemed like average performance in school slid into below level performance and his anxiety really *really* ramped up for us to take him to a neuropsych, and that's when we discovered he had a disability that was severely impacting his ability to function at school, and that was the source of his anxiety.
polarbear I'm not even trying to get into intentional prep for a test and have no reason whatsoever to assume that the OP did anything like that. I was more implying that early scores are less stable overall and a good or poor environment can impact the score more in a younger child making the number possibly more "off." OTOH, I have a child like polarbear's who tested gifted - HG+ on an IQ test twice and whose performance in school was wildly erratic and not on par with her IQ scores, and who is 2e (gifted with a learning disability in case you're not totally up on the board vernacular yet!). I would certainly consider that as a possibility especially if there are other warning signs: - a lot of variability within the IQ scores like polarbear mentions - erratic school performance - a lot of frustration - headaches when reading or other odd signs that most kids don't experience despite performance that is good enough not to appear problematic to the school
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I'd wager quite a lot that a few minutes a day spent practising digits forward and digits backward, tests on which full details are easily available, would improve one's score dramatically over a few weeks. IIRC, studies have found that practice can improve performance on short-term memory tasks, but only to a point. I think the effects also fade quite quickly. The thing that gets me about IQ tests and kids is the obvious variability with the tester. I can guarantee you that some testers would get good results with my DD and others would not. She will give up easily in some moods; if she doesn't "get" something right away, she's inclined to just tank it or say "I don't know" or "Never mind."
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The thing that gets me about IQ tests and kids is the obvious variability with the tester. I can guarantee you that some testers would get good results with my DD and others would not. She will give up easily in some moods; if she doesn't "get" something right away, she's inclined to just tank it or say "I don't know" or "Never mind." This reminded me of something that happened with our ds when he was 5 - it wasn't on an IQ test, but on a kindergarten pre-admissions test given by a private school. The test was *easily* things he knew - really *really* basic kindergarten readiness questions. While I was in a different room filling out a questionnaire that asked me to tell about my ds and I was writing long paragraphs about how smart he was, the type of deep intellectual questions he asked, the amazing engineering feats he'd performed, waxing on about how I was hoping that he would be given intellectually challenging curriculum in kindergarten etc... ... my ds was in the other closed-door room with the kindergarten teacher answering every single danged question she asked "I don't know". Ack! When the test was over and I was handing over my "my son is brilliant promote him to 2nd grade or he'll be bored to tears" parent form (ok, it was much nicer than that lol!)... the kindergarten teacher was shaking her head sadly telling me she really *wished* she could tell me to hold him back for another year because he clearly wasn't ready for kindergarten and she was pretty sure he would be lost in her classroom... On the ride home when I asked ds why he'd answered every question with "I don't know"... he, of course, replied "I don't know". polarbear
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Polarbear, that pretty much sums up our first month of kindergarten. My son will happily do little math problems in his head while in the car but at school a simple exercise where he is supposed to match the card with the four cats to the card with the number four is too much. It is driving me crazy!
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The thing that gets me about IQ tests and kids is the obvious variability with the tester. I can guarantee you that some testers would get good results with my DD and others would not. She will give up easily in some moods; if she doesn't "get" something right away, she's inclined to just tank it or say "I don't know" or "Never mind." Yes!! (x 1,000!!) Exactly.
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Polarbear.... Your story made grin - soooooo been-there-done-that  !!
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