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OK, I'm no help on the scores, but this is HILARIOUS! You gotta be impressed by the droll sense of humor! She sounds pretty special to me

I'm confused too. First, was she really given the WISC-III, not the WPPSI-III? The subtests you post are on both the preschool version (WPPSI) and the child version (WISC), but the WISC also has two other subtests, so I'm guessing the WPPSI. Plus, the WISC-III is very outdated and wouldn't likely be used now.

I missed her age on my prior post; the technical report I posted is only usable for calculating a GAI on the WISC-IV, not the WPPSI or the WISC-III.

She technically could have hit soft ceilings on those 17s by getting some of the easier questions wrong and some of the harder questions correct, and not missing enough in a row to discontinue to subtests until they reached their end.

On the WISC, the correlary subtests with the highest g loading (most related to intelligence) are generally considered to be vocabulary first in the verbal index, followed by information, and then word reasoning. Vocab is also one that is most subject to exposure, though. For the perceptual or performance index, all three of those subtests are considered about the same in g loading with matrix reasoning coming in the highest, followed very closely by block design, and then picture concepts as somewhat lower. Coding is usually considered to be a poorer measure of "g" and symbol search falls at about the same spot as picture concepts (just a tad higher) in measuring "g." This is all, of course, for the WISC, but I'd imagine that the WPPSI would be similar.

My apologies. It is thw WPPSI-III.

And Cricket, DD was 4 years, 1 month at testing.

It's so easy to be confused with all the info that comes back with these tests - but really, it looks like most of your dd's scores line up nicely and most likely make good sense.[/quote]


Her coding score really isn't that far off from her other scores, and I *think* most kids have some little bit of deviation in subtest scores. I've always been told that anything less than 1 SD is not significant.




If you don't have them, I'd ask for the actual scores for each of these - percentages can apply to a range of scores.


I'm confused here if you've put the correct percentage down (95%) and then are saying it's not indicative of her abilities - 95% is very high! And it's right in the same range as her ability scores, which I would interpret to mean she's a child with high ability who is testing at her ability level - all that is good.


That is just soooooo danged cute!!! And true!

Hope that all helps a bit -

polarbear

Polarbear, what I mean by the woodcock-johnson not being indicative is that she *only* did letters and no words at all, but knew every word the lady showed me.

Can any of you clue me in to what coding actually is?

The coding is a timed subtest where the child copies symbols.

momto2ms - my DD did the WPPSI III at 4yrs 9mths. She "soft" ceilinged 3 sub tests (information, vocab, word reasoning) exactly as cricket described - by making silly mistakes along the way, or giving half answers (she doesn't like to talk to strangers) but she reached the end of the test before hitting her actual limit of ability.

She had Object assembly substituted for Matrix Reasoning, which the psych declared spoiled as she was tired and difficult at the end of the 1st session (it was done painfully slowly over two sessions). She hit the hard ceiling on that one, but the maximum score for her age was 17, not 19.

And then she did two repetitions of each coding item, refused to do anymore and watched the timer for the last half of the test. She scored a perfect 10 - in half the available time. It is possible that she chose to stop because she finds visual motor skills hard, because she does struggle in this area. None the less her score reflects what she could do in half the time, she was not told she needed to do as much as possible or as fast as possible, just how to do the task, it was clear to me that she felt she had demonstrated mastery (she did have 100% accuracy in what she did).

Six months later she was retested by a gifted specialist using the SB5, who was a) able to engage her and b) fast and snappy. her VIQ didn't go up much (2 points I think?) but everything else came into line and so she had a FSIQ 8 points higher, more even all around and more useful portrait of her in general.

Her WPPSI scores were very similar to your DDs:

Word Reasoning 16
Information 17
Vocabulary 17

Block Design 17
Picture Concepts 13
Picture Completion 13
Object Assembly 17

Coding 10

Mum,
That is so interesting. Their scores are similar. How old is your dd now?

Our tester gets no points for personality. Lol. Dd talked her ear off, but she certainly didn't offer much info. I am sure dd soft ceilinged (Is that a word? Lol) considering the tester told me she scored as high as possible on 3 sections. I have a kid who is very "lalala" so I am not shocked at any timed sections with low numbers. And they took NO breaks. She took the entire test and the woodcock in just over an hour.