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    My DD did the WPPSI 6 months ago, her three lowest scores were coding (10, she refused to do more than two of each example) and Picture Concepts and Completion, both of which she scored 13s. The rest of her scores were 17s (actually I think there was one 16).

    It always seemed odd to me that DD#2 (both my DDs in fact) struggled most with these particular subtests, when i would have said their visual spatial skills were higher than their verbal.

    DD#2 learned the alphabet as a 2yr old but did not learn to read until actively taught starting 6 months ago (at 4yrs9mths). She's learned to decode quickly and easily and is well ahead of her class, but continues to have trouble with reversals, keeping track of where she is up to and would refuse to even look at books with fonts she didn't like, small text or text over pictures. So I took her off to a behavioral optometrist yesterday and sure enough she has eye coordination, convergence, tracking and focus issues. I am a bit suspicious of BOs finding problems with every child they see, but I went for a reason and he was able to easily demonstrate for me the way that one of her eyes was flicking around trying to lock on when he asked her to focus on an object. I am also reassured that he is recommended glasses first and a short series of therapy sessions only if the glasses aren't enough.

    My question is, does anybody know enough about these two WPPSI/WISC subtests and these visual issues to know if there was a likely impact on her test results? I know that visual issues can be complex and will not have equal impact on all visual skills. The BO did say that her problem would not cause her any issues with certain tasks (watching TV, craft were two he named). I know that when my eldest saw an OT two years ago she scored really highly on some visual based tasks and very low on others, he said he could tell she was great at Where's Wally but couldn't read. So I realise that the issues DD#2 has may have no bearing what so ever on the skills needed for those subtests but I am curious.

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    This might answer the question. I think refusal to continue the coding and font-sensitivity are quite strong flags that there is a problem.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wechsler_Preschool_and_Primary_Scale_of_Intelligence

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    The WPPSI�III is composed of 14 subtests.
    Block Design - while viewing a constructed model or a picture in a stimulus book, the child uses one- or two-colour blocks to re-create the design within a specified time limit.
    Information - for Picture Items, the child responds to a question by choosing a picture from four response options. For Verbal Items, the child answers questions that address a broad range of general knowledge topics.
    Matrix Reasoning - the child looks at an incomplete matrix and selects the missing portion from 4 or 5 response options.
    Vocabulary - for Picture Items, the child names pictures that are displayed in a stimulus book. For Verbal Items, the child gives definitions for words that the examiner reads aloud.
    Picture Concepts - the child is presented with two or three rows of pictures and chooses one picture from each row to form a group with a common characteristic.
    Symbol Search - the child scans a search group and indicates whether a target symbol matches any of the symbols in the search group.
    Word Reasoning- the child is asked to identify the common concept being described in a series of increasingly specific clues.
    Coding - the child copies symbols that are paired with simple geometric shapes. Using a key, the child draws each symbol in its corresponding shape.
    Comprehension - the child answers questions based on his or her understanding of general principles and social situations.
    Picture Completion - the child views a picture and then points to or names the important missing part.
    Similarities - the child is read an incomplete sentence containing two concepts that share a common characteristic. The child is asked to complete the sentence by providing a response that reflects the shared characteristic.
    Receptive Vocabulary - the child looks at a group of four pictures and points to the one the examiner names aloud.
    Object Assembly - the child is presented with the pieces of a puzzle in a standard arrangement and fits the pieces together to form a meaningful whole within 90 seconds.
    Picture Naming - the child names pictures that are displayed in a stimulus book.


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    Thanks Grinity. I am pretty sure the coding was just that she thought it was stupid. She quickly and easily did enough to demonstrate mastery in her own mind and then sat and twiddled the pencil for the remaining half of the test. I always felt that if the tester had explained that it was a race and she needed to do as many as she could before the timer stopped then she might have done more. But maybe she did also stop because it was hard on her eyes. She scored 10 in less than half the allotted time.

    She's being retested on the sb5 by a gifted specialist in two weeks, I am glad she'll have her glasses before then!

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    Good luck with the retesting...hopeful some valuable info will arise.

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