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    I've been doing more reading about giftedness, and many of the books talk about ratio IQ and "mental age." We have WIS-IV and WJ scores for ds. Would his age-equivalent scores on WJ be the same as "mental age"? (If so, would I average them together?) If not, is there another way I can figure this out using the scores we already have?

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    My understanding is that the current consensus that "mental age" is not a valid or useful concept is one of the reasons why we don't use ratio IQ any more. Any particular reason why you are wanting to figure it?


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    Thanks for asking Stacey.

    The modern IQ tests don't use 'mental age' anymore - they use 'unusualness of IQ level' to give a score.

    (person A who has an IQ of 120 is not 'twice as smart' as person B with IQ 60)

    Rather, a score of 100 is the most common score, scores at 130 or higher are rarer, with only about 3% of the population scoring 130 or higher.

    Hope that helps!

    As for as estimating - I would look to who your child likes to socialize with for a 'social age' what they like to learn for an 'academic age' and how they navigate the world for an 'executive function age.' I wouldn't look at the scores, I'd look at the child's behavior.

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    FWIW my son's SB5 testing results included age equivalents, albeit with lots of caveats about how misleading they can be. I agree that they don't seem very useful in assessing intellectual rareness or level. One of my son's measures supposedly showed that he was equivalent to an average person 30 years, 0 months old, which of course seems questionable and doesn't help explain how to raise or educate him.* I think my tester might have included the equivalents for shock value, to prod school admins who might be in denial, and nothing more. (ETA: This page contains a link to an overview paper on change-sensitive scoring by the author of the SB5, Gale Roid.)


    * I can imagine the conversations now:

    Why can't I stay out all night?

    While you live in my house, under my rules, ... (etc.)

    You don't control me. I'm a man.

    You're 10.

    When I was five, I was already the equivalent of a 30 year old man (waving a sheaf of papers). I should have the rights of a 60 year old. If you need help with the math, give me a holler.


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