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I'm "that" mom, too ! My dd's high score on the CogAT was nonverbal by far. I can see that being reasonable as she is a pretty out of the box thinker and she really is much, much better at seeing how things fit together than am I (rarely needs to set up equations in math to see what needs to be done for instance). However, she really didn't do well on the verbal part (still above avg, but not GT) and she's twice scored at the 99th percentile + on the WISC verbal.

Part of my fear is that for the magnet school testing (wisc-iv) they need to score 135 in both verbal and non verbal. I really don't think this test fits with her strengths... esp since they aren't even using the quantitative portion of the test. When my ds takes it.. it will be a good fir as he is not only very mathy but his vocabulary is very strong.

FWIW, our school district only gives CoGat and NNAT results in percentiles so I'm not sure how the numbers correlate. We have not found CoGat to have a strong correlation with other non-verbal tests on our DDs. DD11 scored in the 99th percentile on NNAT and scored only in the 79th percentile on CoGat's non-verbal subtest. DD9 scored 99th percentile on NNAT and had a WISC PRI score of 147 (153 with extended norms applied). She only scored in the 89th or 90th percentile on the CoGat non-verbal.

That's about the spread we saw btwn dd's verbal CogAT and her two WISC verbal portions. There was little to no correlation. I don't know; I guess that some of these tests are based on different theories of intelligence and the CogAT, like has been mentioned before, doesn't purport to be an intelligence test per se.

I hate the CogAT

Dear Ms. X,
I have had an opportunity to hand score your daughter's test booklet on the Cognitive Abilities Test. The Verbal Test is made up of two subtests: Oral Vocabulary and Verbal Reasoning for a total of 44 questions. She got 3 questions wrong in oral vocabulary and 1 question wrong in verbal reasoning for a raw score of 40. The Nonverbal Test is made up of two subtests: Figure Classification and Matrices for a total of 44 questions. She got 2 questions wrong in Figure Classification and 1 question wrong in Matrices for a raw score of 41. Her standard age score in verbal was a 122 and her standard age score in nonverbal was a 118. These scores are based on the age of the student.

Since we use only the standard age scores and national percentile scores for our program, those are the only scores we request from Riverside Publishing. Those scores are reported out to parents in our letter. We do not receive any other reports from Riverside. I hope this information has been helpful.

I guess the report they sent home was wrong (or maybe her hand score was wrong as she scored higher on the report we received in verbal. I dont have it with me at the library to check)