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    Just curious! Mostly because my DS would qualify if so. wink I notice they take gai for the wisc, but not ABIQ for the SB-V.

    I'm guessing it's because it doesn't take as much of the test into account as the wisc's GAI?
    Does anyone know which scores it uses? Purely for my new found obsession with iq tests. Lol!
    Fwiw, his scores:
    FSIQ: 140
    NVIQ: 139
    VIQ: 139

    ABIQ: 148

    FR: 150
    KN: 126
    QR: 125
    VS: 135
    WM: 141


    I have the subtest scores too, if those would help figuring out which scores were used for the ABIQ.

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    HEY AGAIN!!
    I just got the answers to my email question by logging in here..
    I felt the same way! His scores are great, and very similar to my DS.... There is a fine line out there, and I don't know how it is decided who crosses it and who doesn't!!

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    Essentials of Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scales (SB5) assessment, by Gale H. Roid and R. Andrew Barram, says on p. 59, "The two routing subtests in Item Book 1-- Object Series/Matrices and Vocabulary-- can be combined to form an estimated IQ, called the Abbreviated Battery IQ (ABIQ)." It goes on to say that the basis of the estimate is the combination of fluid reasoning (matrices) with crystallized knowledge (vocabulary).

    In "Use of the SB5 in the Assessment of High Abilities", Deborah Ruf cautions against the use of the ABIQ in assessing high-ability children ("Although the ABIQ does provide a good screening indicator of general ability and correlates highly with FSIQ, it nevertheless incorporates only two subtests. A low (or high) score on one of the subtests may give a very different impression of overall ability than would be the case if more diverse subtests were included in the assessment").

    It looks like your son did very well on the matrices subtest, shown in his Fluid Reasoning score of 150. If his vocabulary subtest score was 139ish or a little higher, it explains why the ABIQ is 148.

    I guess the reason is just that once they have a cutoff and decide what that is, it makes sense to just use the most complete information available. They already let a child qualify on full scale, verbal, or nonverbal IQ above the cutoff number. I guess the ABIQ is just too abbreviated for their taste.

    I wonder if the problem is that vocabulary is highly trainable, plus half of the ABIQ number, making it more of a achievement-type metric. I don't know.


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    Originally Posted by Iucounu
    "Essentials of Stanford-Binet Intelligence Scales (SB5) assessment", by Gale H. Roid and R. Andrew Barram, says on page 59, "The two routing subtests in Item Book 1-- Object Series/Matrices and Vocabulary-- can be combined to form an estimated IQ, called the Abbreviated Battery IQ (ABIQ)." It goes on to say that the basis of the estimate is the combination of fluid reasoning (matrices) with crystallized knowledge (vocabulary).

    In "Use of the SB5 in the Assessment of High Abilities", Deborah Ruf cautions against the use of the ABIQ in assessing high-ability children ("Although the ABIQ does provide a good screening indicator of general ability and correlates highly with FSIQ, it nevertheless incorporates only two subtests. A low (or high) score on one of the subtests may give a very different impression of overall ability than would be the case if more diverse subtests were included in the assessment").


    Ah, that makes sense, and is what I figured. Thanks for doing the leg work for me. Oh well, I'll just bug you guys when I need help! Lol. smile


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    Answers that make sense are good smile. I find it odd that Mensa takes the CogAT and OLSAT (group tests that are not IQ tests) and old SAT scores but won't take the GAI on the WISC. That one doesn't make sense to me.

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    Originally Posted by Cricket2
    Answers that make sense are good smile. I find it odd that Mensa takes the CogAT and OLSAT (group tests that are not IQ tests) and old SAT scores but won't take the GAI on the WISC. That one doesn't make sense to me.


    That is odd!


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    Her Amber - I am with ya - let's just bug them all when we need help! HAHAHA

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    Originally Posted by Lukemac
    Her Amber - I am with ya - let's just bug them all when we need help! HAHAHA

    I may be bugging you! Good luck this month! smile


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    fingers crossed my friend, I sure could use some extra support in for the upcoming school change... had a playdate with a boy who will be in his class - the kids is a year and a month older then Luke! He has no teeth! My kid is literally going to be the smallest, youngest little guy in the whole grade!!!!!

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    Originally Posted by Lukemac
    fingers crossed my friend, I sure could use some extra support in for the upcoming school change... had a playdate with a boy who will be in his class - the kids is a year and a month older then Luke! He has no teeth! My kid is literally going to be the smallest, youngest little guy in the whole grade!!!!!

    Aw, he will love it! It's a crazy life we lead with these kids. smile


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