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Hi there, I'm wondering what you take away from the following test results. I included the scores and percentiles. The WISC did not include extended norms.

SB5 5 yo4mo
Non-verbal 117/87
Verbal 126/96
Knowledge 120/91
Fluid Reasoning 109/73
Visual Spatial 140/99.6
Quantitative Reasoning 116/86
Working Memory 112/79

WIAT 5yo4mo
Word Reading 132/98
Numerical Operation 109/73
Math Reasoning 125/95
Math Composite 119/90
Spelling 123/94
Listening Comp. 110/75
Oral Expression 133/99
Oral Language Comp. 120/91

WISC-IV 7yo10mo
VCI 148/99.9
PRI 107/68
WMI 97/42
PSI 94/34
Similarities 19/99.9
Vocabulary 19/99.9
Comprehension 16/98
Block Design 11/63
Picture Concepts 14/91
Matrix Reasoning 8/25
Digit Span 9/37
Letter-Number Seq 10/50
Coding 8/25
Symbol Search 10/50

WIAT 7yo10mo
Word Reading 127/96
Reading Comp. 119/90
Pseudoword Comp. 119/90
Numerical Operation 96/39
Math Reasoning 96/39
Spelling 105/63
Written Expression 91/27

Thanks for answering, Dottie. I was on the fence about including the other assessment details - would it muddy interpretation or help, yk?

DS was pegged as likely gifted at 3.5 by an informed EI specialist due to his verbal precocity, high VS skills and divergent thinking. He has been diagnosed with sensory processing disorder (mostly hypersenstive), vision issues (convergence insufficiency/strabismus), dysgraphia. He fits an ADHD profile, except he's not all that hyper when he's not on sensory overload, and it's hard to narrow it to ADHD when he also has CI, sensory issues and is gifted. We've largely ruled out PDD.

The consistently poor math results confuse me, as this is a kid who asked me about negative numbers at just four, I told him to think about it like an elevator with multiple basement levels and he got it. Same thing with fractions etc. Now, if he's asked a math question he'll resist, take two paces and then give the answer.

Describing him today, he's extremely verbal, creative, divergent. He's not "mathy" per se, but he creates dynamic stuff out of weird component parts, and sees things others don't notice. He has a huge block once a pencil goes in his hand, and the vision issue is improving but he still can't handle or is resistant to densely populated papers.

Thanks for reading .

He's 8yo8mo now, the testing was last August.

Raw scores:
Similarities: 32
Vocab: 42
Comprehenstion: 26
Block Design: 28
Picture Concepts: 19
Matrix Reasoning: 12

Extended norms were not applied, much to my ire.

The nature of the vision issues are that he can't go cross-eyed and his eyes don't work together in close work. He can read into high-school level words if the word is in isolation, but struggles with dense text. If there's too much text or too many figures on a page, his eyes fatigue and his attention wanders (ADHD-appearing). Part of why I posted the numbers is that I'm wondering how much vision might have played into these results, as the 148 fits what I see day-to-day, whereas the PRI numbers don't make sense to me. He's the kind of kid who sees novel solutions and I also wonder how much that might come into play with a tester unfamiliar with a gifted, divergent thinker. This kid envisions himself as a physicist, inventor and author.

The tester also did a Bender Visual-Motor Gestalt II test, with a 44.7 percentile on copy and a 29.69 percentile on recall. I don't know if that even means anything.

He's in a public school for now, but next year is entirely unknown. We may return to homeschooling after this year as it's really hard to meet his 2E needs in a same age, mixed ability group environment.

Thanks for the welcome . I've been reading here for awhile and this is one informed group of people .

Hi Shelly,
Welcome! You son sounds very sweet. Good luck figuring out next year. Homeschooling might be nice if it gives time to continue the work on the visual issues, and takes the brakes off DS's exploration.

Is the current school willing to consider subject or grade acceleration? If both WMI and PSI are accurate scores, I can imagine one frustrated kiddo! Those could either be a result of ADHD or the cause of the appearance of ADHD, I've heard it called 'racecar engine with dunebuggy breaks and steering.' Does that sound like your kid?

My WMI is my bottleneck, and I compensate with some novel tricks to get stuff into long term memory before it 'falls off the workbench' of my mind. That can look like divergent thinking sometimes in me. I just HAVE to make associations - divergent though they may be - or risk losing the information altogether!

Hope that helps,
Grinity