Thanks, good ideas. He will be starting Math Olympiads in a couple weeks with a 4th grade team. He may do odyssey of the mind too again this year. He is generally a very happy good natured kid, so it really surprised me to hear him talk like that. I think he was extra emotional because he was tired, but he definitely does have those feelings in there about just not fitting in. We get together with other kids and friends kids and he has a great time. We do hiking, outdoor stuff, etc and he loves it and loves when other kids come. They really enjoy spending time with him too. I have yet to see kids not interested in him or rude to him. But I think when it comes down to it, he just isn't sure how to relate. We are in DYS and have gotten together for some gatherings, just no too many kids right around us and was unsuccessful in setting up a gathering this summer. Will keep trying I guess. He knows a few gifted kids. But he is still quite different from them. He doesn't really know and/or talk to PG kids that much (except at the couple of gatherings we have been to).