We did give up the underwear a few days ago because it was going absolutely no where. Not one single improvement after a week and a half, which isn't a real long time but long enough when you're changing wet/soiled underwear every hour or so. I think I'm going to try the laying low method for a bit and see if she takes the lead instead.

Asc, I liked the joke about training 3 vs 36 mos.