polarbear, thanks for the info. He has a history of being unmotivated with various things so it's hard to tell. The second things get a little bit challenging he doesn't want to put in the effort. Last year at this time his writing was ridiculous, but the second we moved him to a new school it looked 300 percent better, because he was trying harder (for whatever reason). Then when we tried a trial of ritalin it improved even more and he sped up a lot (according to his last teacher). He actually met his writing "goal" on the IEP but not the OT goal so they will continue to pull him for writing. He has a new IEP manager (who is also a spec. ed teacher who will be working on writing with him) and I told her that there is probably a large discrepancy between what he will do with her when he is pulled, and what he does in the classroom when he's on his own. She said she'd keep an eye on it and it might make more sense for spec. ed to go into class rather than pull him. I'm actually more worried about DD and her writing so maybe this spec. ed teacher can help me as well--I'm just waiting to see if her teachers communicate with me about issues and what they say. Then I'll probably have to request an eval depending on what they tell me. I suspect her issues are a combination of her ADHD, handwriting issues, not being able to organize thoughts, anxiety, perfectionism, and plain old stubborness.