Originally Posted by CCN
Originally Posted by ultramarina
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I don't agree with that. Some kids entering K have been taught, worked with, others don't know the alphabet. There is not necessarily a correlation with their innate ability.

I'm not saying they all even out, but it is true that by third grade as compared to K they have all had exposure, and instruction, and any effects of early interest or instruction will be gone.

BUT. The OP's kid has a gifted-level IQ score. Surely that counts for quite a lot. If her child was simply an untested high achiever, that would be different.

Ultramarina - that's what I meant... you can't coach a kid into a high IQ (looking back at my post I see that I didn't word it well). Tallulah are you referring to the hothoused kids? Because you'd be right about that, for sure. Meanwhile some untested high achievers are hothoused, and some have high IQ's. As for the ones who have tested high... is it even possible to get a false positive for giftedness? A false negative, sure.. there are many things that could suppress a score.

No, not really, I'm speaking more from experience of watching my friends children (so I'm not going to offer specifics), but with an IQ spread of 30 points, all in the gifted range, the different trajectories were very apparent, (probably IQ based, I suppose, but then a child whose parent works with them before school is going to have a flatter trajectory) and you definitely saw them doing this evening out - starting with a huge range before school, due to their interests and parenting, then all the different trajectories, and settling to a range that is a lot smaller than before school, and not necessarily in the same order as before school. This is with reading, not math.

I don't think there would necessarily be any correlation at all with IQ and hothousing, don't you think?

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So while the differences may be more subtle than "this three year old can read, and all these others can't," there is little doubt that the third grader who has been fully literate for YEARS will have experienced much more during that time than his/her newly literate classmates will have in the last 18 months.

I definitely disagree with that. Not all knowledge comes through books, and an involved educated parent combined with a BBC addiction can do a lot. Kind of like people who teach their kids the letters instead of teaching them that if you dig just the right way you can make a moat around your sandcastle, or helping them break down sounds in words, or recount a story, or predict what happens next. IYKWIM, and I don't mean it combatively.

Last edited by Tallulah; 09/07/12 10:18 AM.