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Here's my thought - get the gradeskip now so that when you move, it'll be a smooth transition into the next year as a new kid - see what I mean. Maybe don't show the tests to the school, just ask them to give him some above level tests that they use at their school to demonstrate that he already know so much of what they teach.

If he's reading and enjoying charlottes web then I would just assume that is is 'probably' just like the rest in your family.

So interesting the part about how intensely he reads other people, that must be very hard for a very young person. I know my son struggled with that somewhat.

I've been meditating lately to help dampen the Over Excitabilities, and am hopeful that this will work widely, perhaps even for your son.

Try this link for more info
https://sites.google.com/site/giftedmeditation/

Love and More Love,
Grinity

Grinity:
Thanks so much, I will talk with my husband and see what the school thinks about gradeskip or higher academic work in certain areas.
Yes, him reading into others emotions can sometimes make him shut down emotionally. (My son had 3 IQ testing days) First day Psychologist seemed eager, (son seemed anxious and stressed, results showed anxiety)
Second day psychologist seemed friendly and smiling, (son was excited, and test results that day came out to superior)
Third day psychologist seemed tired and in a rush getting into office late (son test results came out average and he seemed tired)
He's VERY EXTREME OE's, but have to admit as he's gotten older it's definately gotten better. We just keep him on a strict sleep schedule and activities to keep him busy. He's a great kid, just don't want him hating school later on in life because lack of challenge.
Thanks for reading and answering my questions and the great advice you've given me. I will keep you posted on what his psychologist and school says.
(hopeful)

I would try to get the psychologist to put this in writing (ok maybe not the part about the psychologist seeming in a rush - unless you can figure out some way to say it nicely) so that any future person who is reading the results has this information. So next time when you try to make the new tester aware, they won't brush you off as crazy. I believe you, and anyone who knows highly gifted kids would probably believe you too, but it's nice to have it in writing.

Good luck with the accomidations. Does the tester think a skip might help?

Love and More Love,
Grinity

Grinity:
The tester said if my sons school had a gifted program or some accelarated courses it would be beneficial for him to be in them. He said otherwise, he will most likely always be an A student, but might get bored easily and make him unmotivated.

My sons school will be having a parent teacher meeting in a week, I think I will talk with his teacher about some accelerated materials for him for math and reading and spelling. Hopefully this will keep him challenged a bit more until school is out and we can figure out a better accomadation for him when we move.
Thanks for understanding and actually believing me, sometimes people do think I'm crazy. Only people that seem to understand are people that actually have a relationship with my son that know him well and my brother who says he's just like him. LOL
Life is definately challenging with my son, and sometimes I truely just want to cry and pull all my hair out with frustration.
I also have a daughter who will be 3yrs this month, who is also showing signs of quick learning. Her speech is that of a 6 year old now and learning to read. She's also recalling memory from 1 years of age. (didn't even think it was posible, until now)
Having normal kids would just be easier, even though I love my children, it's just so exhausting. (lol)

Thanks so much Grinity. ((hugs))

So - by definition - a kid who NEEDS a gifted program, is gifted. The tester believes your child is gifted.

I well remember the feeling of folks thinking I was mentally unhinged when I was freaked out that my son knew all his letters and letter sounds by age 2, but didnt' start 'reading' until late kindy. It's no fun having other's doubt us, or having something to say that can't be said politely. You son has special educational need due to his unusally strong learning style - what else could gifted mean?

Peace,
Grinity

I completely understand and feel the same as you. The test was so weird and that's what the tester kept saying that he's never seen a case like this before and kept calling it unusual LOL.

My son knew his alphabets by the time he was 1 years old. If I pointed to a random letter he would say it perfectly. I only found out when someone told me after they tried it on him.
I always thought he was so odd with extreme OE's, but his learning style is amazing. I am constantly shocked by his quickness and speed in learning something difficult. What's more odd is he has a hard time doing simple things

When I was young, my school also thought I had a learning disorder and placed me in some special ed classes for speech. Guess they failed to ask me how many languages I knew and that english wasn't my first language. As I got older I was retested for my IQ, results were too high.

Also, my sons first language was NOT english. Makes me wonder if the test might be flawed for native tongues.?? Tester didn't ask if my son knew any other languages until the testing was done and over with. He assumed I was (caucasian I guess)
Guess time will tell the truth lol

Btw whatever happened to your son? How's he doing in school?

Grinity: Well I had a talk with DS7's teacher. I went to my sons conference without any expectations except was going to listen to what she said and ask for some harder materials for my DS7. However, to my surprise....his teacher came to me with some interesting information blowing me away. She pretty much said, your son is beyond bright, and he is the most unique child she has ever met. He surprises her constantly....most days looking as though he's not actively paying attention, and then turning around and repeating word for word everything that was just discussed. She showed me some of his creative writing (which I never knew he could do) and was not only blown away by his poems and word choices, but was shocked that I hadn't known he was a creative writer and a poet. She did mention she has been grading him differently from the rest of the class, because he can read so well. they are still learning phonics for special sounds, but he's bored because he doesn't see the point when he already can read the words. So she has picked up the fact that he is different and has challenged him with out of class materials. His current school does not have an gifted program, which she believes he is ( I didn't say anything about him having been tested) and agreed to give him materials from 3rd grade, he is in an advanced 1st grade program currently. She said she can't believe how quickly he just picks everything up, not just one subject but he's excelling beyond in every subject (he's a teacher pleaser). She also mentioned she noticed with new teachers, he tends to not respect them until they show him respect as well. (that is beyond true since he was 3 yrs old) My husband and I have decided to retest him after our move once we are settled in. His teacher also mentioned his reading just went from a 5th grader to an 8th grade level in two months. She's beyond confused about him as is the school office personel. Thanks for your suggestions...I think overall everything is working out perfectly for my DS7 and hopefully with our move to a new school he can get the challenge he needs in the future.

I have to wonder about this as well. What I've heard about bilingual kids is that the development lags and then leaps ahead. Apparently there was a big recent jump in the reading level at school. I'd sort of just forget about the private testing for now.

My son is doing very well academically - he's a 9th grader (high school) far away at a boarding school that is heavy on class discussion and meaty topics. He is having a few bumps in the road with what you describe with the 'mutual respect' thing. It took me a long long time to 'get' my son, and in the meantime he has developed quite the chip on his shoulder about being a 'lone wolf.' I'm trying to enjoy the good, and if the bad causes the whole thing to fall apart, we'll find a way to roll with that too.

I'm loving hearing what your classroom teach has to say. But I'm still worried that it's better to get the accommodations before the move than to wait for after the move. If your son is truly happier with older kids socially, then I would ask the classroom teacher to handpick a teacher from the older classroom and ask her to work with your child so that when the move occurs you will have paper documentation that your son has completed the grade above him. That way you can start the new school with at least the door cracked open. Of course additional subject acceleration and perhaps more skips will be needed after that.

Right now your son is a teacher-pleaser, but from where I sit, he shows all the signs of being vulnerable to kicking that out the window if his pride gets insulted one time too many. Once that happens it becomes very difficult to get anything out of any school.

I'd love to hear what you think of using the meditation to help modify the OEs, I've had great luck with myself, but my DS14 is 'too old' to want to hear ideas from mom at this point.

Smiles,
Grinity

I would LOVE to have DS7 move up to the next class, however, the upper class teacher is the also his music teacher whom he has many many issues with. His teacher says it's because my son expects the same respect he is expected to give, however, his music teacher is an elderly teacher who has been there since....over 30 years? My son is very very stubborn so to add him in a situation with whom he's already having problems with would most likely end up in a worse situation. His teacher however, has said she will get materials from the class to give him for now. With our move, I can accomodate his needs at a new school and hopefully a more understanding teacher. So far, his classroom teacher seems to have it together, though it took almost the whole year to figure him out LOL. I have been using some breathing techniques to calm his nerves with his ticks and OE's, thank you for the web link .
I don't know if it's just me guessing or noticing this, but whenever his tourrettes acts up a little more than normal, he has a major leap in learning. Is that weird or normal? I'm making an appointment with a neurologist to see if he's okay.

Oh about the documentation, I have asked his teacher to write a formal letter stating all he has accomplished before our move and a little about his personality for his next teachers sake. That way we aren't waisting half the year for his next school to figure him and his personality out. His teacher now LOVES him and his quirks as well. She says's he's so interesting, bright, and has the most compassionate personality she's ever met in a little child.
Lately I have noticed he's been a litle down on himself for little mistakes he makes on any school work. I've tried to tell him it's not perfection he needs to make, just trying his hardest. He's very hard on himself. Is there anyway or anything I can say to help him understand it's okay to makes mistakes?
Your son seems very intersting and I'm sure I will come to you for more questions concerning my DS7 You've been much help to me during this difficult and confusing time. Thank You~hugs~

I have to agree with you there, but if DT is so sold on your DS, perhaps you can remind her what she had to go through to really see your son, and how long he had to wait, and maybe, just maybe, in addition to the lovely note, she can influence the school to promote your son on the last day of school to the next grade up so that he can start the next year as an official X+1th grader.

Anyway - it's great when a classroom teacher really starts to work with an unusual child. Enjoy the next few months!
Grinity