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Does anyone know which subtests make up the "Total Reading" that DYS wants to see on the WIAT III?
My son (14 yrs. 0mos) just finished an LD assessment that confirmed very high verbal reasoning abilities and reading achievement (as well as significant deficits elsewhere), but I don't think they administered enough of the WIAT III subtests for us to use the scores for the achievement portion of the DYS application. I didn't see a score for a WIAT III "Total Reading" listed in the report.
The subtest scores from the report were:
Reading Comprehension 153 Mathematics Composite 89 Sentence Composition 85 Essay Composition 76 Oral Reading Fluency 97 Oral Reading Accuracy 87 Oral Reading Rate 98 Mathematics Fluency 68 Reading Comprehension/Fluency 129
I don't know how DYS feels about kids with High IQ and LD's, so I don't know if I am wasting my time even contemplating applying, but I'd still like to know which subtests they require.
The only other real achievement testing we have is the ACT that he took in 7th grade without any accommodations for his LDs, and those scores don't qualify him - 31 Reading, 23 Science, 12 Math, 21 English, and 22 composite.
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IQ score history looks like this:
SB-IV (age 5yrs. 2 mos)
Verbal Reasoning SAS 139 Vocabulary 68 (136) Comprehension 68 (136) Absurdities 65 (130) Abstract/visual Reasoning SAS 78 Pattern Analysis 41 (82) Copying 40 (80)
Quantitative Reasoning SAS 102 Quantitative 51 (102)
Short-term Memory SAS 129 Bead Memory 49 (98) Memory for Sentences 76 (152)
Test composite 114
Factor scores: Verbal Comprehension 151 Nonverbal Reasoning/ Abstract Visualization 89
Psychologist noted that she believed the Verbal Comprehension Factor score was the most accurate estimate of his abilities, due to his obvious difficulties with motor tasks and visual-motor integration (VMI was at the 6th percentile).
WISC -IV (Age 13yrs 8 mos.)
VCI 134
Similarities 16 Vocabulary 19 Comprehension 12
PRI 100
Block Design 9 Picture Concepts 11 Matrix reasoning 10
WMI 110
Digit Span 12 Letter-number sequencing 12
Processing speed 68
Coding 2 Symbol search 6
Test administrator, who was certified by school district to give the test but not a licensed psychologist, found no evidence that he was gifted or LD with these scores, BTW, which led us to get an IEE, which found:
RIAS (age 14yrs 0mos.)
Verbal Intelligence Index 147 Guess What 75 Verbal Reasoning 77
Non-verbal Intelligence 124 odd item out 63 what's missing 62
Composite memory index 132 Verbal memory 82 Nonverbal memory 52
Composite intelligence index 140
Last edited by aculady; 02/04/11 08:03 AM. Reason: formatting
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WISC -IV (Age 13yrs 8 mos.)
VCI 134
Test administrator, who was certified by school district to give the test but not a licensed psychologist, found no evidence that he was gifted or LD with these scores, I'm not a licensed psychologist, but it does make me wonder what kind of scores the tester would expect from a 2E kid. Maybe the tester doesn't expect to 2E kids to exist. I hope the tide is turning on this common misconception, but I wish it would turn faster. Send in the application - he is certianly close enough to make the effort worthwile (as long as you don't get hung up in being perfectionistic about filling it out, like I did - it took me 6 months. When I asked, the DYS person said that it took some parents 2 years to fill out the forms!) Let the chips fall! It's good practice for us, at least. Grinity
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Thanks so much for the feedback. I didn't want to ask anyone to put in a lot of time and effort writing a recommendation if it was a hopeless endeavor. We'll get on the paperwork ASAP.
Last edited by aculady; 02/04/11 05:55 PM. Reason: corrected typo
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I'm not a licensed psychologist, but it does make me wonder what kind of scores the tester would expect from a 2E kid. Maybe the tester doesn't expect to 2E kids to exist. I hope the tide is turning on this common misconception, but I wish it would turn faster. I had one of the psychs who tested dd10 tell me that it was impossible to have a LD if you weren't below avg.  Good luck with your ap. I'd be curious to know if he gets in b/c I have one child with a similar, but a bit less erratic, profile.
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Test administrator, who was certified by school district to give the test but not a licensed psychologist, found no evidence that he was gifted or LD with these scores Um, this person may have been "certified" but was apparently not qualified to interpret your son's pattern of scores, which are classic 2E.
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