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    Verona #92140 01/06/11 10:09 AM
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    I am piggy backing on Verona's thread to find some answers and offer our experience. These are great points. I have a PGlet with a low PS and a high WM. He's diagnosed to have vision processing disorder and CAPD. At school, these were problematic on a day to day basis because he couldn't pay attention to what was going on and would miss out on instructions. He scored As for his exams though, and I am realizing it could be the WM, as cricket2 pointed out- he's very good at working stuff out for himself and retaining it. His CAPD should have an effect on expressive vocabulary, but it doesn't have, nor on his reading, again possibly because of the WM.

    No one ( not the psych, the gifted services officer, his teachers) thinks he has ADHD but there are periods when he goes into a zone. It's obvious from talking to him when he's in one of these that he's checked out mentally, and it's hard (impossible?) to get through to him. When he gets into one of these, it will last for several days to a week, for several hours at a time. He's fine otherwise. When I cut out gluten from his diet, the brain fog reduced dramatically, but he just slipped into one of these again. I'm wondering what it is, especially because it's so variable. Has anyone seen anything like this?

    Cricket2 #92155 01/06/11 03:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by Cricket2
    That would be my dh. Unfortunately he is still convinced that he is soooo stupid. Last night was a disaster.
    I've got to say that it sounds like your stress level is off the charts. I'm glad you get to vent, that's so important, but I just happened to be over here today:

    http://www.adhdmarriage.com/forum

    and I'm wondering if the reason DH feels soooo stupid is his own early difficulties - perhaps ADD/ADHD,perhaps an LD, perhaps who knows what, and if the reason you are overfunctioning is because he in underfunctioning, and that the 'stupid feeling' is a symptom of the underlying problem, rather than the source of the problem.

    Anyway - jump over there and read what other spouces of underfunctioners are doing and see if it rings any bells, ok?

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    Originally Posted by Drea4545
    Just to add, I also see lower/average WM scores in gifted kids who are not necessarily highly motivated in tasks that require lots of mental energy (because they like things that come easily). It takes A LOT of mental energy to remember number sequences, and letter-number sequences. Do you have a digits forward vs. digits backward subscore?

    This is also true of kids with ADHD- so it is good to figure out if it is just motivation or is it ADHD.

    My DSister49 (verbally PG and very spiky profile very much like my DS10) also said that gifted kids are often lower on PSI and WM because they do better with meaningful material. However, this said, I'm pretty sure my DS10 has lower scores in these areas partly because he is not very good at sequencing (nor am I, I have to sing the alphabet to look up a word in the dictionary and am quite sure I would do very poorly on the digits backward score)

    Verona #92158 01/06/11 03:22 PM
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    Originally Posted by Verona
    I have to sing the alphabet to look up a word in the dictionary
    Huh? You mean not everyone has to do that? I thought that was normal...
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    . . . or have dh say "your other right" at least twice during every car ride to a new destination . . .

    Verona #92160 01/06/11 04:48 PM
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    We just point. I don't like the words right and left. But I do like North and South. Well, now we just follow the GPS, but we used to just point. I LOVE modern technoledgy - spell check I need you!


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    Grinity #92165 01/06/11 05:46 PM
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    Originally Posted by Grinity
    and I'm wondering if the reason DH feels soooo stupid is his own early difficulties - perhaps ADD/ADHD,perhaps an LD, perhaps who knows what, and if the reason you are overfunctioning is because he in underfunctioning, and that the 'stupid feeling' is a symptom of the underlying problem, rather than the source of the problem.
    Thanks, Grinity. It was a bad day and I needed to vent. Dh does have ADD but is not treating it and won't do anything in the way of self-improvement. He's pretty much of the opinion that life sucks and then you die. You can lead a horse to water...

    I'll check out that link to see if there's anything I can do on my side without any cooperation on his end, though. Mostly I've just taken to doing everything and trying to keep his blow-ups away from the kids by not asking anything of him that might make him blow up (which is pretty little), but I really do need assistance carrying the emotional challenges of raising the kids and the reality is that I'm not going to get it from him.

    I'll try not to whine too much here, though! I'm a bit emotionally recharged to go again at the moment.

    Cricket2 #92175 01/06/11 08:06 PM
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    Originally Posted by Cricket2
    I'm a bit emotionally recharged to go again at the moment.
    Yippee! Onward! Seeing the situation clearly can really help, and if venting is needed, it's best done.
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    Originally Posted by blob
    No one ( not the psych, the gifted services officer, his teachers) thinks he has ADHD but there are periods when he goes into a zone. It's obvious from talking to him when he's in one of these that he's checked out mentally, and it's hard (impossible?) to get through to him.

    I'm not sure if this is helpful, but my DS10 can go from happy and alert to grouchy and distracted when he has:

    1. too much screen time
    2. too much reading
    3. not enough sensory stimulation
    4. sensory overload
    5. poor quality or not enough sleep
    6. or sometimes for no reason I can determine!

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