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    PMc #82220 08/09/10 07:16 AM
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    Originally Posted by PMc
    We have finally realized that we just can't wear DS22mos. either.
    We were on the go all weekend, he was extremely well behaved, got
    plenty of exercise and mental stimulation but refused to take naps and was up from 1:00 am until 2:30 and again at 5:00.
    It just doesn't seem to matter what we do, he just doesn't require much sleep.

    That sounds so familiar! You know what DD was doing last night after the long day of walks and everything else we did? She was jumping on her bed after 10pm, giggling hysterically! cry

    Everybody tells me that we just miss her tired window but it's so not like that, she's going non-stop the entire time. We actually wanted to fit in going to the Natural History museum yesterday but, unfortunately, we had a huge downpour and couldn't talk DD out in the stroller. I guess this is payback because my parents said I was the same way...

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    We had/have the same experience with DD and missing 'her window'. Guess what? The window must be sealed shut because she always has full energy when she goes to bed, unless she is sick. I learned early on that this is just DD but she accepted bed time and though full of energy would go to bed with no problems. We would hear her upstairs talking to her animals for a while before she did finally give in to sleep but I think she really needed quiet time before getting to that point.

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    AUGH!

    I spoke too soon! Madame I-can-go-14-hours-and-not-be-cranky is suddenly crashing out for naps again.

    Which means she's awake till 10:30 again.

    Originally Posted by newmom21C
    You know what DD was doing last night after the long day of walks and everything else we did? She was jumping on her bed after 10pm, giggling hysterically! cry

    What do the rest of you do? Should I really let this 2 year old set her own bedtime? Or should I continue uselessly enforcing 9:00 lights out, as I've been doing for months, uselessly? It's a dilemma.

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    Originally Posted by MegMeg
    AUGH!

    I spoke too soon! Madame I-can-go-14-hours-and-not-be-cranky is suddenly crashing out for naps again.

    Which means she's awake till 10:30 again.

    [...]

    What do the rest of you do? Should I really let this 2 year old set her own bedtime? Or should I continue uselessly enforcing 9:00 lights out, as I've been doing for months, uselessly? It's a dilemma.

    Oh, that is so familiar. Does she read or at least look at books? Our policy was not to enforce lights out, but to enforce (earlier than 9) a staying in bed time; DS was pretty happy to comply provided he had a high enough stack of books. He had phases of wanting someone to come and lie down with him (sometimes very late, after he'd been reading for ever) at which point we'd usually do it, but on condition that he was lying still, not wriggling or playing. By the time he wanted that, he'd usually sleep quickly.


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    Originally Posted by ColinsMum
    Oh, that is so familiar. Does she read or at least look at books? Our policy was not to enforce lights out, but to enforce (earlier than 9) a staying in bed time; DS was pretty happy to comply provided he had a high enough stack of books. He had phases of wanting someone to come and lie down with him (sometimes very late, after he'd been reading for ever) at which point we'd usually do it, but on condition that he was lying still, not wriggling or playing. By the time he wanted that, he'd usually sleep quickly.

    Very, very familiar!

    We do a similar thing. I know that my LO has no idea how to rest and relax, in order to be able to go to sleep. Some children do this naturally. Mine don't. It took me ages to learn it myself, so I don't really expect that they would know it. smile But I consider it my job to help them figure it out and get a good nights sleep. I also know the futility of trying to force a child to sleep!

    We do a similar thing to Colin's mum. First we have a rule about being calm and quiet from a certain time. This is harder to enforce, but I really believe that they will learn to do this themselves (eventually!) if I keep modeling it. So after they come out of the bath, we have very quiet music on, DH and I speak softly, The house is closed up and dark, etc. Then they have to be in bed by 7pm, but when they go to sleep is up to them. He's not reading himself yet, so sometimes he likes to look at pictures, or listen to story CD's or music (chose carefully!) Meditation CDS can be good for this. Often, like Colinsmum, my LO will ask for someone to pat him, and we are happy to do that if he is lieing still and has his eyes closed, so usually he will fall asleep very quickly then.

    Of course sometimes this all goes out the window!

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    We've tried the quiet time too but that normally leads to all those jumping on the bed episodes that DD loves so much...

    What has been working for us for the last couple of days at least (no clue how long our good luck will hold!) is that we've been having an enforced wake up time (at 7:30 am) and we take DD for a walk right before bed time. We're hoping to stretch this out for as much as it's worth!

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