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    My mother has been a Title I reading teacher for nearly 30 years and HATES phonics-teaching. She finds whole language works much better for children, esp. considering all the exceptions to the rules in our language.

    DS1 never learned phonics, and the only time in his life that it has been an issue was in public school kindergarten. The teacher gave him a pre-test, asking him what each of the vowels says. Well, even then, he could spell at a 4th grade level, and bombed the test by thinking of words with different vowel sounds. (For example, he told me he was thinking of the word "through" and trying to figure out what the o and u say!)

    Later that day, I was shocked to discover that the class had been watching Letter Factory, which is what our 1 year old was using at home. I led DS1 back to the Baby Tad magnets on our refrigerator and reminded him of "A says "ay", a says 'ahh', every letter makes a sound..." He giggled, then went off to retake the test the next day and aced it. I found the whole exercise ridiculous.

    DS2 is starting to learn to read, and I do find us talking a little about phonics since we sometimes play with ABC reading eggs. He seems to pick up the words he knows from whole language, too, though.


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    when my dd5 was younger we started questioning her giftedness because she just didn't GET phonics. Then this year i showed her sight words and she was able to learn hundreds at a time (through a memory matching game).. Then poof she was reading.

    For her the only phonics she needed to know were initial letter sounds and Blends.. this is enough of a clue for her when coming across unfamiliar words in context..


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    I sure hope not! DD has about 10 right now that I know of and I can't imagine how I'd even stop her... this is the same kid that insists on learning what all the commas, hyphens, and exclamation marks are. laugh



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    There was a discussion on this board about a year ago that ties into this but OF course I can't find it. Basically it was a discussion about gifted children and their preference of sight words over phonics. Not all are like this, but many tend to learn through memorization versus learning the phonics. My DD has comprehended phonics from a very early age but she reads through memorization.

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    Originally Posted by BWBShari
    My son taught himself to read at 2 and I never heard him sound out a word. I still don't really know how he reads as he will pronounce any word he sees perfectly even if he's never seen it before or have a clue what it means.

    DS6 was this way too! I was at a doctor's appt once last year or the year before, and he was reading the fine print on one of those Rx advertising posters. *I* couldn't even say some of the words he was reading, but he was belting them out.

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    A gifted specialist just told me that many GT children get confused by manipulatives because they see concepts in their head instead of with their hands. My guess is that whole word vs phonics works the same way?


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    Originally Posted by gratefulmom
    A gifted specialist just told me that many GT children get confused by manipulatives because they see concepts in their head instead of with their hands. My guess is that whole word vs phonics works the same way?

    My guess would be the same, also with showing math work vs arriving at the right answer?

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    Well seems the boy is doing both. I was curious because he was reading words that I'm sure he never had never seen before. Today while with one of his therapists I pointed to the word "Class" from a distance and he squinted and said "ass." Not right but quite funny and reveling.

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    Originally Posted by JJsMom
    Originally Posted by gratefulmom
    A gifted specialist just told me that many GT children get confused by manipulatives because they see concepts in their head instead of with their hands. My guess is that whole word vs phonics works the same way?

    My guess would be the same, also with showing math work vs arriving at the right answer?

    I've never heard this one before but it makes so much sense! Thank you! And JJsMom is right about the math thing too. Putting extra numbers on paper always seemed so pointless!

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