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    I will take the summer to make the final decision but I will probally move my kids against their wishes to a new school. Current school situation is hurt them. (typical gifted story)
    New school is for gifted and seems to be really good for them. It's 30 to 40 mins. away. No busing available. The kids shadowed there and did well but don't want to leave their great friends.

    So can anyone help me with how to tell DD7 & DD9, why they need to do this? I would say the current school is a good one for many ND kids, but this is a better opportunity for GT. If we don't try it this year we might get shut out next year.

    The kids have expressed lots of frustration this year but I don't think they get how it hurts them even though I have explained this. DS has gotten to the point where is rushing & less ambitious. DD is ready to take on challenges. I also feel a bit of guilt like they confided in me and now I'm using it against their wishes.

    DH is not totally agreeing this is the best move but has agreed to send the kids to the gifted school. I keep thinking if DS was dyslexic or something with special needs everyone would understand.

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    Oh, I was just about to write almost the exact same post!! Slightly different story though. My kids 9 & 7 are in a full time GT program that the love and we do as well. It's great but it's 25 miles away......

    There is another GT program (very very similiar, modeled after their current program) that is only 12 miles away. We've applied there because we are just burnt out on the current drive.

    I meationed it to my 9 year old and he was so opposed! I have a harder time moving him because he's been in the program 2 years and is a very anxious kid. So it's breaking my heart that I'm even considering this for them. I am not as upset to move my 7 year old because she has only been their one year and settles into things easier.

    I could really use some advice as well. Does anyone have opinions on whether or not I'm crazy to be taking them out of a school that is awesome and works well for my 2E kid just to save half the drive???

    For OP, my son moved to a gt school in 2nd and he was also nervous about leaving his friends. I would tell them that if it doesn't work out they can always go back to their old school. Let them know that it's worth a try. 99% sure they will be amazed at how well they fit in at the GT school and they'll love their peers. I doubt they'll ever look back. Just reassure them that they can always remain friends with their old classmates. Good luck, these are such scary decisions for a parent.

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    I'm a big believer that as parents who live in the real world, we have to take everything into account that matters to us, prioritize according to our values, and do the best we can for our kids in ways that fit into our whole family's lives. Our kids' opinions of school matter, but in the end, if what they want isn't good for them, then you make that call. That's what parents do. And making that hard call is the right thing to do.

    The same goes with things like the school commute. If it is impractical for you to drive an hour a day every day, then it's okay to decide not to do it. This is your life, and your kids have to fit into your life. Certainly anyone should think long and hard about undoing a good school fit. But if you have thought about it (which, of course, you have!) and you found a program that seems comparable, then I think there's nothing wrong with changing schools. School is part of your family's lifestyle, so it has to *fit* into your life. You get to decide how much you're willing to give up and where you draw the line, and there's no wrong answer. Moms and Dads matter, too.

    onthegomom: I would suggest talking with the kids about good things about the new school whenever it seems natural. You don't want to hard-sell it, I don't think, and of course you don't want to just talk *at* them about it, droning on and on. But I think you probably do want to subtly get them talking about what they liked about the new school in order to get them on board with the plan.

    It's tricky though, because you don't want to oversell it and have them disappointed. I think your goal is to move them from "I don't want to go!" to "I'm willing to give it a try." Don't try to get them all the way to "I can't wait to go to my great new school!" Aim for neutrality.

    I think you will need to have a school talk at some point. The more you can use the Socratic Method--asking questions and leading them to the answers you want them to give--the better, I think. (Just don't be as annoying as Socrates! LOL!)

    Some of this depends upon how upset you think they'll be about the change. If they're just not thrilled, then I wouldn't worry too much. If there will be tears and tantrums and months of pouting, then you will have to work harder to set things up before you tell them what you've decided. You have to make them a bigger part of the process.

    Perhaps before you have the "This is where you're going to school" talk, you could have a number of smaller Socratic conversations about how they feel and why they feel that way, as well as some very honest info from you about your worries and why you favor the new school. Maybe make a pros and cons list, talk about what scares them--and what scares you about the old school!--and how likely those worst cases are to happen?

    I think that when adults talk about the reasons why we make the choices we make, kids get more receptive to our decisions. Just be sure to appeal to them in ways that they respond to. For my little Spock, logical reasons work best. For my hyper-emotional kid, his fears have to be addressed. Different kids, totally different approaches.

    At worst, it becomes a lesson in decision-making for them, right? You model how to make a tough choice. It's a good time to talk about what your family values and why.

    The other thing that might be helpful is the idea of reversibility. If the new school is possibly lost to them if they don't try it now, but they could return to the old school later if things don't work out this year, then that's a very good reason to try the new one. Maybe you can revisit the decision after a year? (We revisit our school decisions every year anyway, so this would be no sacrifice for us!) I'm thinking of it as a "no-thank-you bite," but for school instead of for vegetables at dinner: "Try it, you might like it!" wink Hopefully after a year they will have settled in at the new school. If not, that might be an indication that the new school didn't work very well.

    I've babbled a lot, but hopefully there's something there that's useful.


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    Oh, one other thought: if friends are the only reason they want to stay at the old school, making a deal with the kids about playdates and sleepovers with the old friends might help. Offer more social time than you might be inclined to offer normally. This way they keep their old friendships, but they also try the new school.


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    We're going through this right now too, although we don't have a kid who loves school. While we haven't had the official meeting yet, it's likely that DS is going to skip 1st grade, which will mean going to a different school. We've been telling him this may be a possibility, and each time we talk about it, he is more accepting. What convinced him most was when we told him (truthfully) that he would not learn anything new in 1st grade. His biggest concern was making new friends, and we assured him we would schedule playdates with his friends. Also, there are so many kindergarten classes right now that he would have been unlikely to get in a 1st grade class with the kids in his K class, so he'd be making new friends anyway. (He thought he'd be with the same class of kids next year.) He finally said it would be OK, as long as he didn't have to get a new girlfriend, because he's going to marry this particular little girl. I told him that of course he didn't have to get a new girlfriend!

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    We are going through this also. We actually mentioned the new school as a possibility last school year, so it was in the back of DS7's head. Usually, the earlier the better is the best plan for DS who has major issues with transitions. This year when we made the decision, I thought I was doing the right thing by telling him right away and it backfired. I told him in Feb and he had 4 major meltdowns and was suspended twice that month. He told his current teacher that he didn't have to listen to her (or anyone else at his current school) since he was going to be going to a new school. (The school blamed me (technically true!) even though it is DS who has the transition issues.) I was worried about a terrible second half of the school year, but after that month, everything has been back to normal!!

    So he is all set for the new school. We even took a walk through it today while it was closed. DS has issues with sitting still during lunch time (current school has prison guards for lunch patrol) and his new school allows roaming during lunch. DS excitedly said he couldn't wait to eat lunch at this picnic table with his new friends. Ahhhhh, I breathed a sigh of relief! DS went through his transition in Feb so when school actually starts in August, it will be a breeze...maybe smile

    I still think that the earlier DS knows the better. He is going to have a problem at some point, but giving him plenty of time to get through it works best for us. Nan

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    One thing that is really bothering me... DS9 and DD7 were very open in telling me how they felt about current school which made me want to make the school change. Now I am doing something against their wishes so will this make them think they should of kept their dissatisfaction from me? I want them to come talk to me still.

    This year after some efforts for advocacy on my part & son really wanting to change the situation actually got worse than last year. I would ask my son if he wanted more advocacy help and he would say no I have enough work to do. I would explain I was looking for appropriate work not more work and he didn't want to hear it because my efforts have already made it worse.

    So I'm feeling the pressure like I just don't want our lives in general worse by moving to a new school 30 mins away but I feel like we have this option and should try it.

    I do think if I don't have to deal with the aftermath daily of school days that uses up every bit of their patience this would have a wonderful impact on our lives. I'm hoping if the school day is more respectful of learning ability then DS will have more patience for the rest of his day.

    The option may not be there next year if the school fills up. I feel like the current school in just not acceptable for DS and there may be lots of problems in the future if we stay.

    I keep telling myself if we don't like it we can come back to our current school but somehow I still feel nervous about it all. I hope I can find some peace with this. thanks for the vent this should help.

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    master of none - thank you. That is exactly what I needed to be told. I think I've been so stressed and a bit alone with my DH not understanding completely, that I can't think so clearly.

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    That was a fabulous message, master of none. I needed to hear that too.

    Riding on this thread, we're not facing a school change on our end. Advocacy with the gifted board backfired in that NOTHING is being done, not even a 1-grade skip. I managed to arrange with his school for him to skip school for 2 days of each week to attend OT and an external math class that is above grade level (more for competition math prep). On 2 of the 3 days in school, his teacher has implemented my suggestions for differentiation. DS is loving it all!

    But ... we'll have a review with the gifted board by the end of the month and they're not likely to be happy with the changes since their position is full-week immersion for "social" reasons. Well, they're not giving any practical help either. I'm sucking in my gut and scouring these pages for mental and practical support. Am going to be documenting and writing a script for myself in case I falter smile.

    onthegomom, you're not alone. It's pretty stressful here too. DH loves the unfolding outcome of what I've implemented so far, but isn't sure how to back me up with the gifted board, or how far to trust our son in terms of his reactions and needs. Truth is, this is all so new to us. I feel like such a bridge between the needs of my family, the school and the gifted board, and the load does get very heavy at times! crazy

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    blob - thanks for the encouragement. It is nice to know I'm not alone with this burden. I've been working on this situation for 3 years and now I'm so lucky to have another choice. Such a big change is scary for me as well as the kids.

    I hope somehow you can keep your situation that sounds wonderful. Can any of the teachers write up something saying how he is so happy doing all of this?

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