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Thanks, Inky. That makes sense now.
FWIW, I probably won't bother trying to get ACCES to change DD's test to the 6+ version. It doesn't sound like there's a high enough ceiling even on the 6+ to make it worth testing again next year to measure growth. I'm thinking that the EXPLORE will work better for charting year-to-year progress. And if not, then there's always the SAT.
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Which brings up another point: on the form from ACCES, the Language Test doesn't list tests for 2-6 and 6+. I'm wondering if there IS only one level of Language test. Looks like there is only one Language Test instead of 2-5 and 6+: http://www.bransonschoolonline.com/filestore/bransontestselection041410.pdf
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Thank you inky for all of your help!
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You're welcome. It'll be interesting to see how your 4th grader's Explore and MAP scores compare. DD's MAP and Stanford Achievement test scores were very close. Hope taking the MAP test with no time pressures will build his confidence for next year's Explore and he'll get the DYS qualifying score.
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Wow, Inky! You really are the MAP expert. It's very helpful to know that there's only the one language test.
Thanks for looking up all of those links!
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I just got off the phone with NWEA. To further confuse things...here are the tests that are available.
MAP Survey 2-5 MAP Survey w/ Goals 2-5 MAP Survey 6+ MAP Survey w/ Goals 6+
But it looks like through ACCES, there is only MAP Survey 2-5 and MAP Survey w/ Goals for 6+.
I spoke w/ a technical support person at NWEA and gave him DS's Explore scores. He said that the Survey w/ Goals 6+ test is the best test for him. It will adjust down if need be and it will give more headroom when testing next year. The Survey tests are mainly used for kids entering a district or for checking mid-year progress. At any rate, certainly the MAP Survey w/ Goals 2-5 is the minimum I'd want to use. So I will call ACCES Inc now to see if I can switch him to the Survey w/ Goals 6+.
Dazey (maybe a little less confuzed)
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I just got off the phone w/ ACCES and there is no problem giving the Survey Goals 6+ test! WOOHOO!
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Dazey,
Had your DS already done some or all of the tests?
And am I right that there is only one level of the Language test?
I'm just debating whether to do the same thing, especially since we still have until May 21.
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NJMOM - my 1st grader has already completed testing but the Survey 2-5 was perfect for him. My 4th grader has not started yet. I was planning on testing him next week.
Has your DD completed one of the tests already? I'm assuming your DD has completed the Language test? If so, I would just do the 6+ survey w/ goals for reading and math.
I didn't ask about the Language Test. Based on the info that Inky posted, it seems there is only one level of the Language TEst. You could call NWEA and ask them. They were very helpful as was Leslie Rawle at ACCES.
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I was re-reading your earlier posts. Would the Explore really have more headroom than the MAP though? The Explore is an 8th grade test. After that you'd move to ACT and SAT but I don't know how useful those are for year to year as well as how does multiple testings affect college admissions. If the MAP does have up to 12th grade material, then it should be ok until about 8th grade I would think which is what I think Dottie was getting at in her posts. At that point, DC would taking ACT and SAT.
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