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    I was re-reading my kids' application to a local gifted program for 145+/- I.Q.s because if they pass the first screen they will be interviewed and (to be completely frank) I want to prep them. The application included SB-V results, WIAT II results, recommendations, and example of written work. I am concerned because my kids are borderline on the SB-V. We were in a rush to get the apps in and my younger son had to take the SB-V on a day he was sick and my older son, well...he just doesn't have a 145 I.Q. But he did manage to get a 139 which was actually higher than his WISC-IV score of 135 two years ago.

    However, looking over his app I noticed that he has a nonverbal I.Q. of 127 and a verbal I.Q. of 148. Looking further I see that he got 19's in 3 of the 5 listed subtests. Is this significant? Is it something I should bring to their attention? I could ask the psychologist to write letter so I don't seem like crazy mom.

    Our other alternative is a local school where only 75% of the kids work at or above grade level (this seems to be a consistent stat across grades and subjects). So I apologize for trying to get help grabbing at straws, but I do think we have a problem. As far as I know this program can fit all kids who are identified, so I'm not trying to push out other smarter kids who might "need" it more out.

    Verbal subtests

    Fluid reasoning 19
    Knowledge 15 (I don't understand this, all he does is read and he remembers everything)
    Quant reasoning 19
    Visual Spatial 19
    Working memory 16

    Nonverbal subtests

    Fluid reasoning 12
    Knowledge 14
    Quant reasoning 16
    Visual Spatial 15
    Working memory 14


    What is the difference between verbal and non-verbal if the subtest labels are the same? Does nonverbal mean he has to write his answers?

    Thanks for any insight!

    Jane

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    This seemed relevant to your question:

    http://www.davidsongifted.org/db/Articles_id_10405.aspx

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    Any time your child has earned a score of 19 (the highest possible subtest score on the WISC-IV and SB5) on any individual subtest, OR any time your child has been administered all items on a subtest and the discontinue rule has not been reached, that subtest score and the overall composite score to which it contributes will underestimate your child�s true ability level, which is higher than the test is designed to measure. Ask your psychological examiner to consider including a statement in the report that test results may underestimate your child�s true ability level because of low subtest ceilings.


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