Gifted Issues Discussion homepage Forums Identification, Testing & Assessment should I just accept this as my dd's accurate IQ??

oops, thanks Cricket. I guess I'm not reading closely today. I will PM you about the other tester.

Hello everyone, I am new to all of this, I have a 5 year old who is in the 1st grade and is reading 4.3 grade level, the teacher has accused him of being ADD, I have gone to a therapist, a psycologist and a pediatrician. Still no answer yet. I found a gifted school that qualified him, but the tuition is close to $9000. At this point I cannot afford it. I just shut my business down in July to open another one in September from scratch. Has anyone heard of Menlo Park Academy, it's a gifted school and free

Please advise

Not that this adds too much value cause my dd is so young and the test administrator was a student but dd took the WPPSI-III and scored fine yet knowing what she can do, I know she could have scored better. I wouldn't mind getting her tested again but at a much later age. Perhaps 5 was just too young? I didn't read every post but maybe she was just squirmy or didn't like the tester. DD stopped answering the Verbal questions because she "just didn't want to have to tell him anything anymore" and she scored a 134 VIQ - which we believe is probably higher if she kept telling him stuff.

I would wait another year and try again but don't be discouraged. If you know your dd is more capable than the tests say, then try again when she is a bit older.

Really that's like suggesting that people with a PG kid could not also have a child who was an outlier in the other direction for example a child with Down Syndrome or another developmental disability that affects intelligence. This is another strike against accuracy of GDC information as far as I'm concerned.

The fact that you have the 2 sets of data makes it more complicated; since they are consistent with one another. I would seriously explore LDs, and maybe read on visual-spatial kids. Is she very creative or divergent? Maybe she just sees other things and responds in non-standard ways. My younger DD will soon be tested and I worry about this. She is very smart, but also completely outside the box thinker.

I am certain (although I can't prove it with IQ tests) that my brothers and I are gifted and my sister is not. She DOES have some LDs, but it is not just that. However, in her case, there were no "wow" moments. With your dd, you are seeing other things. With my sister, I remember how hard it was for her to learn colors and counting, her vocabulary has never been precise, etc.

I would not discard the info from the tests but I would also not take it as an absolute.

That was another "strike" against my dd on her test...she was asked, for example, "which animals have milk" and she answered "a mama polar bear" - which is technically correct but because the answer wasn't cow or goat, she got it wrong. So the reliability of the tests can be "eh".

Yes, same with my dd, and the tester commented on a few examples today after her testing was through. I think she had to describe a dog and my dd just said "they are very friendly and people love to own them." She didn't get credit or maybe partial because she didn't say a dog was an animal with fur or something like that.

I think today's tester seemed to think that because she has had two tests with relatively the same result that it's a good representation or her ability. I think she learns quicker than what the results would indicate. The tester did say that there "could be" some attentional issues since older brother has issues. What kinds of LDs can lower an IQ test result potentially? Just wondering what to watch for?

Maybe I just have to accept the results. That means that she would be about 25-30 pts below oldest bro and sis. Regardless, we aren't going to do any more testing for several years and just see where her achievement goes.

R

just wanted to say that I found this conversation fascinating and would like to know more about families living with PG and NG kids. My children are not biology related to each other or me, so we live this scenario. We are all yen and yang for each other!

-cc