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    Originally Posted by dr.ruf
    It is complex. What really matters is whether or not the person who evaluated your child can help you to understand and offer appropriate support for him or her. Ultimately, scores are not the issue. They are merely samples - samplings - of how your child reasons and thinks. The goal, after all, is to do what we can to facilitate the child's growing into the fulfilled, independent, emotionally sound person he or she was designed to be. When my children were younger, I focused on scores, too. It is natural, I think, to do so. But eventually, as they grew and matured and did what they wanted to do, I finally learned what it a joy it is to simply watch what they do, who they are, and where they are going still. Getting the scores right ended up not to make much difference at all.

    Dr. Ruf, thank you so much for that passage. You really put things into perspective for me and that helps me to just relax and enjoy our fabulous children.

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    Yes, great points, thanks again!! It *is* complex!! smile

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    Originally Posted by dr.ruf
    I am going to be beta testing a new online "screening" for intellectual levels soon and people on this list may enjoy doing it to help us out and get free information of this type.

    Deborah Ruf

    Dear Dr. Ruf,

    will be English language required? I do speak English but DD speaks very little. If it is a non-verbal test I may sign up smile

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    Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge with us Dr. Ruf. I wish I'd understood the difference between the SBLM scores and WISC IV before DD was tested. I couldn't figure out why she scored "so low" compared to my SBLM number. I'm going to add this to our quotations thread because it was beautiful and I want to revisit it from time to time.
    Originally Posted by Dr. Ruf
    The goal, after all, is to do what we can to facilitate the child's growing into the fulfilled, independent, emotionally sound person he or she was designed to be. When my children were younger, I focused on scores, too. It is natural, I think, to do so. But eventually, as they grew and matured and did what they wanted to do, I finally learned what it a joy it is to simply watch what they do, who they are, and where they are going still.

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    Originally Posted by dr.ruf
    because the natural immaturities and physical realities make it incredibly problematic to move little kids up too fast to work with more physically mature children. This is one of the reasons Leta Hollingworth talked about how the worst times for PG kids are the school years leading up to age ten. After age ten, the physical issues of handwriting, for example, are no longer a big deal or something that holds the child back.


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    Thank you so much for posting this Dr. Ruf. I have pounded my head against a wall too many times trying to figure out how to get his intellectual needs met when my DS7 hates to write.

    Thank you so much for taking time to "visit" us here. Come back as often as you can, specifically in a few months (or next) when it is too cold to do anything else. laugh

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    Holy Cow.... I'd take a late night of postings with Dr. Ruff over a night out with (insert star of choice). Losing our Minds brought us the bit of sanity we needed to find a voice for advocacy. That "it" wasn't just in our heads. What a treat. God bless you for the work, the research, you've done to advance this area.

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    This is a link that equates scores from the different tests. Hope this helps.

    http://www.hoagiesgifted.com/highly_profoundly.htm

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    Originally Posted by dr.ruf
    I am going to be beta testing a new online "screening" for intellectual levels soon and people on this list may enjoy doing it to help us out and get free information of this type.

    Someone please become our (my) liaison through my real email address because I cannot keep jumping in here (I have no self-control when it comes to this stuff; I love it!) Contact me through my assistants at dr.ruf@educationaloptions.com if you want to participate in the Levels online beta test.

    It's been a pleasure.

    Deborah Ruf



    Has anyone heard more about the Levels online beta test? Did I miss out?

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    I volunteered, but I haven't heard anything yet. Maybe it's just not ready?

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    I think she is still working on it. I suspect she will find many a volunteer from this board to test it. PM her if you are interested.

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