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    BWBShari #41939 03/18/09 02:20 PM
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    Originally Posted by BWBShari
    Related to this subject, DS6 came home today and informed me that he is the smartest kid in the whole school. I asked why he thought so and he told me that he had a 180 IQ. He refused to tell me who had put the idea in his head. I asked him if he knew what IQ meant. He said "Intelligence Quotient" and smiled. I asked again. "Do you know what intelligence quotient means?" To which he replied.... "It means i'm wicked smart!" (He heard us talking about that particular phrase and has taken it as his own!) I would love to know if it was a child or an adult that was discussing IQ scores with him. He'll tell me eventually, he's not good at secrets.

    So tonight, Humility 101......Wish me luck!

    Good luck with that... lol. I like the wicked smart; i think it's a dottieism. Can't wait to hear how the Humility course goes. Our kid tells people he's really smart too, and he's not getting that from us (we've been really trying to focus on effort). It's not like they can't figure that out on their own! That's kind of disturbing that an adult would discuss IQ scores with your son without parental consent, though. I suppose we'll have to make it clear at the school that we don't want DS to know his IQ.

    We have shared scores with DS'5's grandparents so that they can understand how different he is, then we have shared some books talking about how these kids need different schooling. (From one grandma, we heard a lot about the importance of socialization, so we were hoping to convince her of the importance of intellectual peers.) As for DS, he knows he learns differently than other kids his age. I think our tester recommends telling kids when they're age equivalent is around 13. I don't know what we'll do.

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    Ah, Shari, ds6 recently told me that he thinks he's the smartest kid in his class (at a GT school!). Sad thing is ... smirk

    We don't share scores. The only people I told are my parents (there are several HG+ kids in my generation), but they didn't really get it and I think they still don't! They've seen the 160+ scores from the SB-LM, and can't seem to wrap their minds around 160 as the top score on the new tests, or the percentile correspondence. Even the public school administrators were doing this. It's irritating!


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    Mia - do you mean they were disregarding 160 as being unimpressive?????? Maybe I misunderstand.

    This thread is a good reminder to me to keep my ds' info private - here it is all good, no one really knows anyone else (except for a few) and, more importantly, everyone understands. But in the 'real' world, that's another story.

    Ds goes back and forth between calling himself very smart and not that smart...


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    Originally Posted by Mia
    They've seen the 160+ scores from the SB-LM, and can't seem to wrap their minds around 160 as the top score on the new tests, or the percentile correspondence. Even the public school administrators were doing this. It's irritating!


    I don't think the administrators in my ds's school understand the new test either.


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    DW and I had a talk about this last week. She did not think it bad to speak about sons scores with friends and famliy. She hasn't but wasn't sure as to why she should not. The best analogy I could use is that we don't tell people how much we make, it's personal, for some it could be viewed as bragging and for others it could be viewed as (Thats not much). It avoids some of the posible un comfortablness that could come from a number discusion.

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    Originally Posted by Dottie
    I think what Mia is saying is that they don't understand the limiting factor of a 160 ceiling, and are not impressed by some really impressive scores say in the 140-150 range. I hit this with a school admin myself, who knew of a kid once who had a 160, crazy .

    Yep, that's it exactly. A child who scores 150 on today's tests could score a 150 on the SB-LM ... or he could score a 180 on the LM, and *that's* the high number most people think of when they think "IQ score." And often, there's a *big* difference between a 150 and a 180 on the LM in terms of how the child presents. Today's tests don't discriminate between children with those ability levels -- *all* children receive scores 160 or under on new tests before the extended norms, even though their ability levels could vary wide.

    Well, on the WPPSI still; the WISC and the SB-5 now have the new extended norms, so that confounds it even more for those of us with 160 ceiling tests!

    I like this chart on Hoagies:

    http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/highly_profoundly.htm

    Very concise!


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    Mia #41989 03/18/09 06:05 PM
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    We decided not to share DS6 scores. We didn't even tell the grandparents. People know that he is DYS. They could put 1 and 1 together and come up with a reasonable estimate. Some of them compare DYS to Mensa so obviously the 1+1 part is not as trivial as one would think wink Either that or they have no need to Google pretty much everything wink



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    Update on humility 101.

    It actually went pretty well. He thought I was mad and I asked him why I would be? Then he decided I must be disappointed. I again asked him why? Apparently he'd noticed that his comments had made someone feel bad. So I really didn't have to say much at all.


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    Nice!


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    Originally Posted by Mia
    I like this chart on Hoagies:

    http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/highly_profoundly.htm

    Very concise!


    I've actually printed that and handed it to my parents. My parents were a little puzzled by DS's "low" score because I took some version of the SB as a child and scored considerably higher than DS, though we all think he's smarter than me! My parents didn't realize that with the new tests you really just can't score higher than 160.

    When I gave it to DS's teacher, I just included it with the packet from our psych, as if she had attached it. Though I hate having a label, I've also said "you do realize he's more than 2 standard deviations above normal? If he were 2 standard deviations the other way, would you tell me to 'just let him be a kid?'"

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