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    mamaandmore #38143 02/15/09 02:07 PM
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    Originally Posted by mamaandmore
    her imaginative play has also taken off and she mostly just needs an explanation to get her to do something she doesn't want to- as opposed to the tantrums she was having when thwarted.

    And she gets this look in her eyes when I'm talking to her sometimes that just completely freaks me out, it's like she just *understands* things in ways I can't even begin to fathom.

    Mama, I can totally understand this.

    Katelyn'sMom, from what I remember about what you've said, your DD is way, way out there ahead of the pack. It should be interesting how she does next year. I love the thought of her being the youngest, and I look forward to hearing what her teachers say next fall!

    Socially, if DD could get into a classroom full of 10 year olds this month I promise you she'd never leave. That would be her dream come true. She couldn't keep up with the curriculum, but she'd have a great time.

    You know, as far as the large scale 25 piece puzzle goes, I wanted to clarify that I had to do some facilitation for DD 25 mos. I handed her a piece, she looked at it and compared it to the picture, and then she decided where to place it. But I did frequently have to help her jimi the pieces into place. She was not always able to put new pieces in without disrupting the whole row.

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    Originally Posted by Kriston
    Originally Posted by chris1234
    I was wondering the same about that 'I spy' ability to find things, I figure it's got to help with puzzling...actually dd is very quick with that as well.


    DS7 has always loved the "I Spy" and "Where's Waldo" books, too. And his strength according to testing is pattern recognition. So there you go, I guess...

    I don't really know how he works puzzles, but he also doesn't do edges first.

    My DS6 excels at I Spy and Where's Waldo but doesn't really like puzzles. I think he's intimidated by them.


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    Originally Posted by oneisenough
    Did/does your toddler like puzzles? Dd wants to like them...but she has not figured out how to work on them. I am struggling with teaching her how to "do" a puzzle. I have tried explaining the flat sides go around the edges, and I have told her to look at the box to get ideas of what the picture should look like when it is complete...but she doesn't quite get it. She loves trying, but I am hoping for some success before she gets frustrated...any tips?

    (coming in late here)

    I've decided that, at least with my three kids, I can't really teach them how to do a puzzle --- the process needs to be something that they figure out for themselves. This may be because there are so many ways to put a puzzle together that what works for me could be opposite to what works for someone else.

    I suggest giving her easier puzzles and letting her move to more complex ones. We had a 4 piece puzzle of a duck that my DD played with when she was 1-ish. She picked it up one evening and struggled and struggled to put it together. She was struggling so much that I was starting to feel uncomfortable on her behalf and was afraid she was going to have a meltdown. She didn't want any help.

    To my relief, she finished the puzzle by herself. To my surprise, she then immediately dumped it out and started over. She didn't stop doing that puzzle until she'd mastered it! I was amazed. But the key thing was that she had to learn it herself.

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    mamaandmore #38156 02/15/09 07:33 PM
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    Originally Posted by mamaandmore
    My DD is 29mo now and in the last few months it's been the same thing- she's made these intangible leaps. I'm not sure what "normal" is at this age, but her imaginative play has also taken off and she mostly just needs an explanation to get her to do something she doesn't want to- as opposed to the tantrums she was having when thwarted. But, really, it's not so much the things she does as the things she suddenly understands and the questions she asks. She's been on this kick where she's really interested in what can live in water and what can't, constant questions about can people live in water, can our dog live in water, etc. (Yesterday she got mad at DS4 and DS7 and yelled "Brothers, you *both* live underwater!" like it was an insult, lol). She asked why we can't see the moon and stars when the sun is out and then was fascinated that our sun was a star too. Weird, crazy, questions that I've never had a 2yo ask me before. I'm sure they're common around here, but the boys never asked things like that at 2. And she gets this look in her eyes when I'm talking to her sometimes that just completely freaks me out, it's like she just *understands* things in ways I can't even begin to fathom.

    Mama: Thank you for the above. So it isn't just me. LOL I still find myself trying not to get into detail with DD but she just gets it and asks probing questions that makes it clear she understands it. She too is fascinated with the heavens. Yesterday it was cloudy so she went on and on about how the sun was behind the clouds but it isn't night time and at night she goes on and on about the moon and the stars. I really want to get a telescope but I keep saying she is only 2.

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    I forgot to answer the actual thread question, sorry! blush

    DS4 started doing puzzles at 2.5, he just one day sat down and did a 50 piece dinosaur puzzle. It hadn't occured to me to show him and my older DS wasn't interested in them, so he didn't really do them much. DS4 is the puzzle kid in our family (and a boy after his puzzle-addict mother's heart, lol). He looks at the picture and finds the parts he wants to put together, like a particular dinosaur or the pirate ship, he doesn't start with the edges.

    DD2 recently started being very interested in puzzles and can do a 24 piece one with some assistance, her and DS4 will sit and do every kid puzzle we own for well over an hour. I think it's about the only time they work together without someone crying! She does them the same way he does, she finds a part of the picture she's interested in doing and then works from there.

    I think the big thing is finding a puzzle that they like, if they enjoy the theme, they'll be more inclined to do the puzzle. I also second the wooden jigsaw Melissa and Doug ones in the try, DD has a much easier time with those and will even do them on her own.

    oneisenough #38177 02/16/09 07:05 AM
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    Originally Posted by oneisenough
    Did/does your toddler like puzzles? Dd wants to like them...but she has not figured out how to work on them. I am struggling with teaching her how to "do" a puzzle. I have tried explaining the flat sides go around the edges, and I have told her to look at the box to get ideas of what the picture should look like when it is complete...but she doesn't quite get it. She loves trying, but I am hoping for some success before she gets frustrated...any tips?

    I am late in responding to this but I was thinking about dd1 and puzzles. She started with the Melissa and Doug wooden letters/numbers/shapes type at about 12 months. She never did them one at a time though. She would dump all of them and then put them together! Once she got really good at that, she would try to put them together without using her eyes to set the piece. (She would ask me to hand her a piece and she would find how it oriented with her eyes closed! Of course these were whole figure puzzles.

    When we started parts of the whole figure puzzle, she started with melissa and doug Hands, body, train. From there, she took off with regular cardboard puzzles.

    She has always been a prefectionist, so when she couldn't get a piece to fit, she would toss it under her bed and say it was lost!!

    She's not so much a picture puzzle kind of kid any more. She likes Mathy puzzles, crosswords, science experiemens, etc.

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    Originally Posted by seablue
    Katelyn'sMom, from what I remember about what you've said, your DD is way, way out there ahead of the pack. It should be interesting how she does next year. I love the thought of her being the youngest, and I look forward to hearing what her teachers say next fall!

    Just wanted to share our experience today with the preschool since we toured the school this morning. They had established an area for the kids to interact with each other and DD, as usual, dummy down her verbal abilities when talking to the other kids but still I got these looks from the other mothers and finally someone asked 'Exactly how old is she?' I quickly replied she is 2 1/2 making sure to add the 1/2 to make her as old as possible. And this was the watered down version of DD.

    Then while they were talking to us about the program the kids (that could) were playing with these foam boards with pegs. They were adding one at a time into each hole. I looked over at DD and she had stacked the pegs 6+ high. Again I get the strange looks from the other moms. But overall I have to say I am really hopeful that the preschool is a good fit and DD is super excited about it all.

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    We got Mr W those wooden puzzles with the knobs on them a few months ago.

    He was fighting me to get the puzzle out of the plastic wrapper.

    When I put the puzzle on the floor, he took all the pieces out, put them back as designed, then took each piece and systematically tested it in the other holes.

    He then took the round piece, put the knob in his mouth, the piece covering his whole face, and crawled to his next toy, then tried to use that piece in its slots.

    Nowadays, sometimes, I will take a piece and put the knob in my mouth, and he will laugh, put one in his mouth, and we will wait for DW to come into the room.

    I'm sure he will fail his evals when he is 5 due to Dad encouraging his weirdness!!





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    [quote=Katelyn'sM om
    But overall I have to say I am really hopeful that the preschool is a good fit and DD is super excited about it all. [/quote]

    Yippee! So glad she's looking forward to it. Don't you wish, in those moments your DD shines, you could just say, "Yeah - isn't that miraculous?" The only drawback I can see to doing that is that it makes the other moms feel inadequate, like they've done something wrong or not done something right. But really, your DD is miraculous. I hope the new school and its staff and parents embrace that fact.


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    seablue,

    Thanks for the good wishes. You are so sweet. But as tempting as the comment would be to make I just could never do that. I am certainly over sensitive to other people's feelings especially when it comes to their kids. Too bad we don't get that same courtesy. Oh if we lived in a perfect world...

    DD is in rare form tonight ... very silly. My mom put her hand up and told DD "talk to the hand" which DD responded (not missing a beat) while wearing sunglasses upside down no less, "Do you not understand?" As I am rolling with laughter I confirmed my mom has never done this before so clearly was a rhyming game for her. So then DD came over to me and put her hand straight out not turned up and said talk to the hand, which she literally meant for me to talk to the hand and she talked for the hand and so I had a conversation with her hand. She so cracks me up.


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