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    Originally Posted by Kriston
    To me, advocacy means asking for the appropriate level of schoolwork. That's doggone hard to do without insulting the teacher, even for a socially skilled adult.

    I think we may just be talking about different things here...

    I agree that educational advocacy may not always be appropriate for a child, but i wouldn't rule it out either. Like everything it depends on the kid and the teacher and the situation. And, I think we can be working towards giving our kids the skills to ask for what they need educationally. And developing "social skills" is a huge part of laying the necessary groundwork for that to happen. I don't see it as two types of self-advocacy, but just a continuum of basic to advanced.

    We have been lucky in that DS is socially adept (ENFP) and has had marvelous teachers. As a result, asking for appopriate schoolwork has not posed the difficulty you describe. Most of the advanced work DS gets he has gotten because he asked the teacher for it (even in early elementary school), often without my even knowing about it.

    I am not suggesting that a kid should be the one advocating--for shy kids and/or defensive teacher it could really backfire. But I know that educational advocacy is realistic for at least some of our kids even at an early age. Like everything, so much is individual. As parents,one of our jobs is to figure out how much responsibility our kid can accept.

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    True. But I suspect your child is the exception rather than the rule on this one, acs. My son was more self-aware and self-confident than virtually any other kid I knew at age 6, but he was not ready to self-advocate. Certainly his teacher wasn't ready to hear him when he made moves to do so. If he wasn't ready, I doubt that very many kids are.

    I agree--and stated!--that I wouldn't rule out self-advocacy. I certainly think it's great if a child can do it. You know how strongly I believe that all kids are different, and I also agree that a good school situation might make it possible. (Though in a good situation, presumably the child wouldn't need to advocate for harder work...)

    But I stand by my statement that I wouldn't make it a goal for a 6yo to self-advocate. It would have to be one of those things that just happened, I think. If the child felt comfortable doing it, then great! But I really think that aiming for that is setting the bar high in a situation where the risks are too high.

    FWIW...


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