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    Hello - looking for some guidance on any thoughts or insights into these scores. It's hard to see the different and unique aspects and to have a right plan of action. Below are WISC-V, NNAT3 and we are ADHD combined with Dyscalculia.

    Is this considered 2e given the 99.7 visual spacial or not fully since the other scores are in the high 80s? the FRI 50th percentile is my head scratcher versus this 97 NNAT3.

    This is a 9 year old female in 2nd/3rd grade - super bright with memorization but needs support writing, reading and spelling. Scores above average in math but confirmed Dyscalculia so we've leaned into art but curious what other areas could be beneficial. Appreciate in advance any thought starters!

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    Verbal Comprehension (VCI) 116 107-122 - 86 High Average
    Visual Spatial (VSI) 141 130-145 - 99.7 Extremely High
    Fluid Reasoning (FRI) 100 93-107 - 50 Average
    Working Memory (WMI) 117 108-123 - 87 High Average
    Processing Speed (PSI) 108 98-116 - 70 Average
    Full Scale (FSIQ) 118 112-123 - 88 High Average

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    NAI 131
    97 Percentile

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    Dyscalculia

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    Welcome, lcwest!

    If you have Dx of dyscalculia and ADHD, with the NNAT and VSI numbers, then yes, I would consider this 2e. Your description of needing support with reading/writing/spelling suggests that there may be other LDs, as, with those cognitive numbers, there is no obvious reason this student should not be above grade level in most academic skills. ADHD might explain some of it, but probably not all, if she is receiving good phonetic decoding instruction.

    The FRI and NAI are not derived from identical tasks. All measures are ways to access the nominal cognitive skills, but because children's minds don't fit neatly into boxes, the specific measure may not sample the construct the same way from child to child. Plus, any given day, a young child may or may not be fully available during testing, appearances notwithstanding. In this case, there is the additional information that they were classified with a math disability. Half of the FRI is derived from a very math-related task (not learned math skills, but drawing on cognitive skills that are often predictive of math achievement). If you look at the subtests, I would guess that there is a difference between the two contributing subtests, with higher scores on Matrix Reasoning, and lower scores on Figure Weights.

    Not sure I would avoid math as an enrichment area. I would just focus on interesting mathematical concepts, especially geometric ones, rather than computational math. 3D visualizations, fun little puzzles (e.g., those little hand puzzles sometimes called chain or bar puzzles, usually made out of metal or hard plastic), logic puzzles, optical illusions. Real or simulated construction or design projects, Things like that.


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