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It is fine for working. It needs a more substantial clean a couple of times a week as the laminator sheets don't clean as well as whiteboards. We used the laminated graph paper last night and it was great.
Lost the quote but it was about smearing.
Last edited by puffin; 03/06/17 03:32 PM.
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I'm visiting here after a long absence and thought I would update that DD is taking geometry this year and says she loves it. Have never heard "love" connected with a math class before. (She also says the teacher is great, which could be why.) I have also been told that even teaching geometry is now considered outmoded, though? Like, the rigor of a typical geometry class is in question? Thoughts on this?
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I had a lot of conversations with my AP/honors math peers about geometry when I was in school, because it was the only math we took that sorted people into distinct camps of loved it (me) or hated it (most of them). The major complaint of the second camp was proofs. I've treated this forum to a couple of rants already about how incredibly important geometric proofs are in a formal education, since we don't really teach anything specifically related to logic outside of it. There have been some complaints of proofs being watered down, or eliminated entirely, including on this forum. http://giftedissues.davidsongifted....ll_vent_about_geometry_c.html#Post119879I'm looking for relevant articles and not finding anything, but the fact that this expert felt the need to write an argument about NOT skipping proofs in geometry class is strong support that it happens all too frequently: http://www.mathgiraffe.com/blog/proof-that-proofs-belong-in-geometry
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Geometry is the poor stepchild of the Math sequence continually being shorted in favor of more Algebra or Statistics.
If you look at a typical sequence nowadays its heavy on definitions/taxonomy, trig, analytic i.e. Cartesian geometry at the expense of classic Euclidean topics.
Example From the CC standards: (this curriculum will tend to do proofs during only parts of a few units for the entire year)
Units Includes Standard Clusters* Mathematical Practice
Standards
Unit 1
Congruence, Proof, and Constructions
• Experiment with transformations in the plane.
• Understand congruence in terms of rigid motions.
• Prove geometric theorems.
• Make geometric constructions.
Unit 2
Similarity, Proof, and
Trigonometry
• Understand similarity in terms of similarity
transformations.
• Prove theorems involving similarity.
• Define trigonometric ratios and solve problems
involving right triangles.
• Apply geometric concepts in modeling situations.
• Apply trigonometry to general triangles.
Unit 3
Extending to Three Dimensions
• Explain volume formulas and use them to solve
problems.
• Visualize the relation between two-dimensional
and three-dimensional objects.
• Apply geometric concepts in modeling situations.
Unit 4
Connecting Algebra and Geometry through Coordinates
• Use coordinates to prove simple geometric
theorems algebraically.
• Translate between the geometric description and
the equation for a conic section.
Unit 5
Circles With and Without Coordinates
• Understand and apply theorems about circles.
• Find arc lengths and areas of sectors of circles.
• Translate between the geometric description and
the equation for a conic section.
• Use coordinates to prove simple geometric
theorem algebraically.
• Apply geometric concepts in modeling situations.
Unit 6
Applications of Probability
• Understand independence and conditional
probability and use them to interpret data.
• Use the rules of probability to compute
probabilities of compound events in a uniform
probability model.
• Use probability to evaluate outcomes of decision
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DD is highly visual and artistic. I'm guessing this has something to do with her reaction so far.
I am not mathy, but remember enjoying doing proofs.
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Well, you say you're not mathy, and in your OP, you say your DD hates it and professes to be bad at it. My DD says the same thing your DD does.
I'm pretty good at math, and I have trophies and a career to support that.
In helping my DD with her homework, I'm seeing someone who intuitively grasps the concepts, sometimes struggles converting word problems into mathematical language, and frequently messes up a problem by doing something stupid like dropping a sign or reading 3 and computing 8. Her grades are usually low As as a result.
Ummm... everything I see in DD looks VERY familiar. She's a full year accelerated and in the honors math course, her peers are always coming to her for help, and her grades are very good. So... why does she think she's bad??
Girls are weird.
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Could be more visual/artistic thing. You have to be very pleased.
LOL..girls are weird.
My ds took Honors Alg1 then Honors Alg2 the following year. In 8th grade it was honors Geometry. He loved it even though all of testing break downs (NWEAs, Explore, ACT) always rated him lower in geometry than algebra. He learned more and had a more enjoyable year in geometry by far. Never minded all the proofs, and there were tons.
He said his teacher rarely used the supplied text book for discussion.
This year honors pre calc. He seems to be just putting in his time.
New School and a teacher who is just "meh" at best so far.
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your daughter sounds like me ...I hated math - loved geometry and even trigonometry - I never did well with computation because of my dyslexia but once we could use a calculator I was fine - I took an IQ test the year before I entered college and had a good laugh because ... apparently I have a math talent- and had abysmal grades in math ... believe me - nobody would have guessed ... So yes ... completely possible to have a talent and not excel at the correlating subject in school.
I have a child with a math talent and no interest in math whatsoever ( and we tried to make it interesting ) My son can breeze through math but if he had a choice ... he would rather do something else. They tried math competitions and such and he hated it - he doesn't mind math but ... it is by no means an area he is passionate about.
Talent doesn't equal passion ... I love art and music and I have no particular talent for it. ( none whatsoever in fact ;-) )
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girls are weird -- I'm a relative newcomer to this forum but I thought JonLaw was the resident deadpan humorist :-)
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girls are weird -- I'm a relative newcomer to this forum but I thought JonLaw was the resident deadpan humorist :-) Also true. But Dude was on sabbatical or something.
...pronounced like the long vowel and first letter of the alphabet...
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