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    I have an email in to her to ask how she evaluated her. What I see my DD do a lot is read something too quickly, miss a piece of rather simple information (like instructions) and make a mistake because she did not read carefully enough. She does not lose things, or forget things though.

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    I am resurrecting this thread because I'm still trying to figure this out. Here is an excerpt from an email I got back from the reading assessor regarding what assessment she used:

    "The assessment I used was an informal assessment that I created myself. It is based on my 18 years of experience and knowledge working with students with learning differences. In my professional opinion, I did not observe anything that would lead me to believe that your daughter has a learning disability. I am not a licensed diagnostician so I am not sure how much weight my findings would have. If you are interested in doing a full psychoeducational evaluation I can forward you some referrals. My degree is in Special Education with a Learning Disabilities concentration."

    So that's all the info I got. That, and she is reading at grade level. I asked my daughter about the things on this page http://imaginationsoup.net/2012/11/12/the-4-big-reasons-kids-dont-like-to-read/, and she said "too sitty." That said, she can sit and watch videos on YouTube for hours if I let her. She does tend to tip in her chair, and likes to fidget with things while watching (I'm getting her a stress ball type thing so she doesn't keep picking up random items).

    She doesn't lose things at school, can sit down and do her homework (although she seriously couldn't care less about it, she does it because she knows she has to and her handwriting is terrible). Her math and language arts just came back as in the low to mid 80 percentiles. So am I dealing with inattentive ADD? She just seems like a social butterfly who isn't interested in academics. She never seems spacey although she does seem to have a hard time sitting still. Her teacher says she always wants to get up in the classroom and get a tissue, etc. However her teacher doesn't really let the kids move that much.

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    Unfortunately, that means that you still have no objective data on her reading level.

    Restless is not the same as inattentive.


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    Originally Posted by LAF
    "The assessment I used was an informal assessment that I created myself. It is based on my 18 years of experience and knowledge working with students with learning differences.

    I would want an assessment that is based on instruments used widely in the professional community to assess students with potential reading challenges. Data from an informal assessment can't be compared to norms of any type, so the only thing you have to rely on is the assessor's interpretation of the results. It sounds like your assessor has a good background in working with students with learning differences, but I don't know how you, as a parent who is not a professional who's worked with students with learning differences... can judge for yourself the value of what you've been told by the assessor without having data that can be more easily quantified and compared to a wider range of children.

    I have a 2e child who has had challenges that made it very difficult to learn to read. A neuropsych-type of evaluation was helpful in that it showed she had difficulty associating sounds with symbols - which is at the root of her reading challenge, but it didn't give us as much information specific to reading as a thorough reading evaluation by an SLP who works specifically with students who have challenges with reading. The tests that the SLP used for dd's reading eval are widely used normed tests that you'll see referenced in many different places. I can't honestly remember the names of all of them without pulling out dd's report, but two that I can remember are the CTOPP and Gray's Oral Reading eval.

    The other thing I'd consider re whether or not to seek further evaluation and who to turn to for the evaluation - if there is a reading challenge, you will be interested in more than just identifying it, you'll want to remediate, and you'll want to start right away. When my dd was evaluated by the SLP, there were at least 3 other tests included in addition to the CTOPP and Gray's Oral Reading, and we received from that testing a thorough report that showed where specific skills were below expected (based on ability) and the thoroughness of the report made it possible for the SLP and her staff to propose a specific type of remediation for dd - which worked really well. The info we received from the neurospych eval was helpful, but didn't give us the roadmap to remediation.

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    ps - just another note - if you have questions that go beyond reading skills, the neuropsych eval is worth pursuing, but if you are somewhat confident that it's reading specifically that is a concern, the eval by a reading specialist might not only be more thorough, it's also (or was for us at least) quite possibly much less expensive than a neuropsych eval, and depending on your location, might be much quicker to get an appointment for testing.

    pps - jmo, but I think the link to the reasons kids don't like reading is a bit simplistic - it's a good summary list for the reasons a nt kid who doesn't have a reading challenge might not want to read... but a child who has a reading challenge might not want to read for any of those reasons simply because reading was too difficult to begin with, hence the response to the difficult is to think that reading is boring or it's too hard to sit still etc. Hope that makes sense!

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    Well when I find a book she likes (a graphic novel like Smile, or Miss Happiness and Miss Flower by Rumer Godden) she will read the whole thing start to finish. She walked around with the book Smile for a week after reading it, and wanted to read all the other graphic novels associated with the writer. So I don't know that there is a reading challenge, because when she finds a book she loves she does love it. I also don't want to make too big a deal about it because I don't want her to decide she has a reading problem. BUT she is reading at grade level, and I don't understand why.

    The other day, I just told her that I know she didn't like sitting and reading, but it was part of her homework (she is supposed to read for 20 minutes a day) and I would help her try different books to find one she liked and that she could sit on her yoga ball (we have an exercise ball that we use when they keep tipping their chairs, we replace chairs with the ball) if it was getting "too sitty" for her.

    So far she really liked Flora and Ulysses, but at one point said she wished they would get to the point (whatever that means) but she said she did really love that book. I tried to get her to read The Phantom Tollbooth but she doesn't like to read it, although she enjoys when I read it to her. The only other concerns I have is underachievement related to total lack of interest in school (and she makes careless mistakes). I'm also concerned that it falls into this pattern of "extremely bright but does not apply herself" pattern that I remember well from my childhood… the difference is at her age I was reading anything I could get my hands on.

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