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    DS 9, currently in gifted 4th grade. At the time of this testing (which spanned over 3 days) he was sick with the flu but still did pretty good.

    VCI: 132 (98) / PRI: 123 (94) / WMI: 129 (97) / PSI: 97 (42)

    Quantative Reasoning Domain: SS (122) PR (93) Age Equiv 16:6

    Anyone have any idea what exactly these all mean? lol thank you

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    Is this the WISC-V? I ask since you list a QRI. Or did the examiner use one of the alternative scoring & interpretive schemes? What are the subtests in the QR? (Possibly Matrix Reasoning and Arithmetic?) In general, does he have subtest consistency within indices? Or is there variation of more than one or two scaled scores?


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    It was WISC iv. Not sure what the matrix were but most likely arithmetic in nature. We don't have the full report yet but I received these scores to pass along to the school for their record. The huge drop in processing speed concerns me but the school said it wasn't low enough to implement an IEP.

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    Okay, that helps. Whether the PSI is low enough to be concerning depends on how he looks IRL. Are there relative or normative weaknesses that might be efficiency related, such as issues with writing speed/output, math fact/spelling memorization/retrieval, executive functions? How's his fine motor? Oh, and being sick would likely hit WMI and PSI the hardest.

    Overall, he displays pretty even & strong development, with the exception of PSI, of course, but that's not totally out of the way for the GT population.

    VCI = verbal comprehension. Verbal reasoning and vocabulary.
    PRI = perceptual reasoning. visual-spatial skills and abstract-fluid reasoning.
    WMI = working memory. short-term auditory memory.
    PSI = processing speed. fine motor speed & some visual discrimination.
    QRD = mathematical reasoning. fluid reasoning and oral arithmetic (word problems). I'm guessing on this one, based on the subtests I would use to estimate QR, as it's not an "official" index score.


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    I'm sorry I just don't know what these mean. I'm not sure what his strengths and weaknesses are or what kind of educational experience is best for him. I'm not accedemically gifted I'm more in the talent spectrum so all this is foreign to me and I'm just trying to learn how to interpret them so I can help my baby.

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    Oh yes he was diagnosed with dysgraphia and rote memorization disorder or motor apraxia as well as ADHD and executive function deficit. Again none of these are my forte lol I dance and write novels lol

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    Yup. All those would smack him right in the PSI.

    The other scores mean that he has strong abilities (testing MG-ish range, but possibly a low estimate, given that he was ill at the time), with even development in verbal, visual, and mathematical areas. It's usually a good profile for a wider range of GT services, except, in his case, for the written output limitations that I assume led to the dysgraphia Dx.

    Strengths = thinking
    Weaknesses = writing

    to over-simplify a bit!

    Probably weaknesses in math facts and spelling, too, I'd guess, from the rote memorization Dx.


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    Yes! He can discuss quantum physics but can't do long hand division. We are having a hell of a time getting his school to help :-(

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    What's MG? Mildly gifted? Are there different kinds of giftedness?

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    Moderately gifted.

    Yep different levels of gifted but hard to work out what that means sometimes. Especially if you have a child who also has learning challenges. The challenges can mask exactly how gifted your child is.

    By the way our DD only worked out why long division was important last year and she is 13. She also has handwriting issues so I suspect she dodged long division because she didn't want to do it and told herself it wasn't important because she could get the answer other ways with less writing.

    Gathering information, as you are, is the first step in getting the school to help. Don't expect them to understand gifted issues so you have to be the informed one. It's tough as we are used to experts having the necessary expertise but gifted is not a well understood area. Asynchrony and twice exceptional are even less well understood.

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