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    I found a definition of processing speed (it has a lot of references, too):

    Originally Posted by Johns Hopkins webpage
    ...processing speed [is] the ability to rapidly and efficiently respond to basic stimuli. Processing speed is typically defined as speed of completion of a task with reasonable accuracy. Processing speed tasks include tasks such as quickly associating numbers with symbols (including components of IQ tests), searching for and responding to specific targets, as well as rapid naming of visual stimuli. Thus, processing speed may be a more fundamental cognitive process that underlies the efficiency with which one can read and write.

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    Originally Posted by madeinuk
    Originally Posted by Dude
    Originally Posted by aquinas
    - Journalists jockeying to release the first well written coverage of an event.

    That would be a refreshing change.

    /snark

    And it would indeed be a first.

    You guys need to read The Economist and The Atlantic more. You'll feel better about journalists.

    /end unrelated hijack


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    Originally Posted by aquinas
    Originally Posted by madeinuk
    Originally Posted by Dude
    Originally Posted by aquinas
    - Journalists jockeying to release the first well written coverage of an event.

    That would be a refreshing change.

    /snark

    And it would indeed be a first.

    You guys need to read The Economist and The Atlantic more. You'll feel better about journalists.

    /end unrelated hijack

    NO! The hijacking isn't over until MY demands are met!

    I do read The Atlantic, and a couple of other good sources. They are well-written, but they are never first.

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    Originally Posted by Loy58
    I am finding this discussion fascinating, because I have 2 children with high reasoning scores, but very different index profiles.

    FWIW, both are excellent readers. DD is a FAST reader, though. DS could possibly get there when he is her age.

    DS often DOES learn by memorizing - and his memory is pretty amazing. Not photographic, but he recalls details DD and I would easily forget. Poor DD seems to have inherited my penchant for devouring concepts, with a poor memory for numerals (yep - the phone numbers; I don't even TRY to remember them and always write them down). Add some letters to the combo and DD and I instantly have a better memory.

    DS learns extremely well, but I often call him my "deep thinker." Unlike DD, who always has a quick answer for everything (euphemism intended), DS speaks less often, but many of his observations are profound. I believe he is a slower (although not slow) processor, but with a better memory - I do see this in real life. The WISC measured him this way, too.

    In terms of paraphrasing, I was a thespian in high school and I am embarrassed to admit that I often ad libbed, without intending to...which can work to a point...until you get a role in a Shakespearean production and realize that you probably shouldn't be paraphrasing The Bard. wink

    Loy58, you just described my 2 kiddos; they are so similar! DD had gifted processing speed and above average wm. She also makes careless mistakes and answers quickly and rather impulsively. DS is a deep thinker and has an exceptional memory. He has average processing speed. She is a big picture thinker and he notices every single detail.

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    Originally Posted by Dude
    Originally Posted by Aquinas
    You guys need to read The Economist and The Atlantic more. You'll feel better about journalists.

    /end unrelated hijack

    NO! The hijacking isn't over until MY demands are met!

    I do read The Atlantic, and a couple of other good sources. They are well-written, but they are never first.

    /end unrelated hijack wink


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    I can take over the hijack from here.

    I kind of got tired of the Economist. Stopped being useful for me.


    The Atlantic is a good read.

    It really depends on the journalist. You have to know who you are reading.

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    Hmph.

    It's quite clear that nobody is considering my idiosyncratic needs here at all.

    {stamps foot}

    I feel deeply chagrined that you've carried on like this without me being involved. It's a natural law that I must be involved in any thread-jacking that happens in a forum of which I'm a member.

    Now I have to reevaluate my entire theory of everything. Gosh, thanks. At least with my processing speed, and the simplicity of my model, that shouldn't take long. smirk


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    Originally Posted by HowlerKarma
    Hmph.

    It's quite clear that nobody is considering my idiosyncratic needs here at all.

    {stamps foot}

    I feel deeply chagrined that you've carried on like this without me being involved. It's a natural law that I must be involved in any thread-jacking that happens in a forum of which I'm a member.

    Now I have to reevaluate my entire theory of everything. Gosh, thanks. At least with my processing speed, and the simplicity of my model, that shouldn't take long. smirk

    Your model is wrong.

    Faster processing speed will only enable you to get to a wronger answer faster.

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    Well, I never said that it was right-- or even correct, necessarily. Just that it needed to be reevaluated, and that as you note, faster processing speed means that it won't take long.

    Clearly, since I am not at the center of the universe, it must be the earth as a whole, which is incredibly puzzling to me...

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    Great discussion as usual. Some of us will just have to agree to disagree. Polarbear was correct that level of ability among other issues factor into the end result. However, I was simply looking at the big overall picture/trend. For the record, I was not limiting processing speed to reading speed, but that is one of the most basic measures that everyone can easily witness. I was not claiming that processing speed was MORE important that verbal/perceptual reasoning ability. Furthermore, given a number of the posts that did not find value in processing speed, I should emphasize that I was looking at high ability and fast, not moderate ability but fast. DS was not an example of fast processing speed coupled with relatively lower verbal/perceptual reasoning ability. If anything, his verbal/perceptual reasoning ability exceeds his processing speed. My point was that his fast processing speed is a gift that keeps on giving, by continually giving him a leg up. Reading quickly also does not mean that you will fail to understand, retain, or synthesize the information just as reading slowly does not guarantee that you will understand, retain or synthesize the information.

    I can think of many careers where slow processing speed would not be an impediment. However, based on my own particular career choices, processing speed has definitely been an asset even if it has not been the most important one. Sometimes the one who gets in the first word also gets in the last word and wins by default. Sometimes the first one who offers a good solution gets all the credit.

    Anyhow, the effects of high processing speed amazes me. For example, DS at age 6 was able to read Harry Potter fluently with comprehension while still unable to reliably differentiate his b/d and p/q. His teacher who had just completed her training as a reading specialist, thought that DS was speed reading in a faster but less common way by processing information in halves instead of thirds.

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