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    Originally Posted by indigo
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    EXPLORE may go away for good in a few years but hopefully there will be a new test (for 3rd to 6th grade level) before the kids are old enough to take SAT/ACT
    Link to ACT's current webpage on the Explore test: http://www.act.org/products/k-12-act-explore/. Looks like the replacement test will be Aspire, a longitudinal test for students in grade 3 through grade 8.
    I have not seen Aspire to be a component of any Talent search (CTY, TIP, NUMAT) yet and not on DYS list.

    Well, this is the 1st year of implementing and it may be something like SCAT for CTY. 2nd grader taking 4th grade Aspire, etc....Hopefully, it will work out and give us low cost option for achievement testing.

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    Aufilia - that is a good idea. We will go with IQ only first. Aeh thank you, very good information.

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    Originally Posted by Aufilia
    Keep in mind you don't have to do both the IQ and achievement tests in one sitting. You might do one, wait and make sure the results are what you'd hoped, then decide when you can afford to do the other. University testing is probably a good start, because $600 isn't a bad cost for private testing.
    Makes perfect sense. We will take IQ first.

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    Originally Posted by aeh
    If you want cognitive and achievement to be interpretable together (in a learning disability or neuropsychological context), though, don't wait more than six months between their administrations, as that will affect the reliability of between-test comparisons.

    Very good point, we will remember this.

    Thank you

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    Originally Posted by gabalyn
    If private testing is prohibitive, then you can use an achievement test like the SAT and a portfolio.

    She is in first grade, SAT would be tough for her. Is a low score for a early age is good score? She is just 6 and I think she will be able to answer a few questions on SAT. She will do good with reading comprehension, she reads faster than me. But I don't think she can get more than 30% correct answers on SAT

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    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
    I would begin with the school. Some public schools will do iq testing when there is reasonable consideration that a student is well beyond age peers in ability.

    We had a talk with her teacher and principle at school, they are all against of any kind of tests. They think these tests are just for boosting parent ego and they do not recommend taking one. Although they think that she is gifted.

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    Originally Posted by Peter
    Originally Posted by gabalyn
    If private testing is prohibitive, then you can use an achievement test like the SAT and a portfolio.

    She is 6 and the low cost test like ACT/SAT or EXPLORE will not be a good fit right now :-).


    I guess that she is in 1st grade now. How's her reading and Math level? Is she doing at least > 2 grades above (3rd or 4th, etc)? What's her interest? Is the school not being challenged enough?

    If the school is a good fit, I would wait until she gets a little older to be able to take like EXPLORE (that costs <$40) through talent search. (EXPLORE may go away for good in a few years but hopefully there will be a new test (for 3rd to 6th grade level) before the kids are old enough to take SAT/ACT).

    If she is reading at middle school level and doing multiple digit multiplication, I would encourage for you to talk to the school and the school district to see if they can give IQ test or achievement test for your grand daughter.

    And you can submit it along with a portfolio (the video of her talking/explaining something she is passionate about whether it be a book or scince stuff, her math work sample (at least 2 grades above her age peers, etc....).

    Good luck!

    Very informative thank you so much peter.

    Yes she is 6 and she just started her first grade. She is very good with reading. So far she read over 1000 books. Currently she is reading between 3.4 through 5.5 grade level books. According to STAR test she is in 99 percentile nationwide (this is the highest percentile that STAR awards)


    She is not bad with Math, she can do multiplications. She has started doing double digit multiplications, but she is not perfect yet.

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    Originally Posted by aeh
    I notice that she was tested already by the school system. What tests was she administered? Besides STAR.

    She was tested on STAR When she entered first grade she was test for her English and she is between 3.4 to 5.5 grade level and she is in 99 percentile. She was not testing on formally anything else.

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    Originally Posted by indigo
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    EXPLORE may go away for good in a few years but hopefully there will be a new test (for 3rd to 6th grade level) before the kids are old enough to take SAT/ACT
    Link to ACT's current webpage on the Explore test: http://www.act.org/products/k-12-act-explore/. Looks like the replacement test will be Aspire, a longitudinal test for students in grade 3 through grade 8.


    Thank you for the link, looks like they have started offering this. I checked a sample paper, sample paper looks a little tough, it may take another 6 months to a year for her to be there.

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    Originally Posted by Peter
    Originally Posted by indigo
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    EXPLORE may go away for good in a few years but hopefully there will be a new test (for 3rd to 6th grade level) before the kids are old enough to take SAT/ACT
    Link to ACT's current webpage on the Explore test: http://www.act.org/products/k-12-act-explore/. Looks like the replacement test will be Aspire, a longitudinal test for students in grade 3 through grade 8.
    I have not seen Aspire to be a component of any Talent search (CTY, TIP, NUMAT) yet and not on DYS list.

    Well, this is the 1st year of implementing and it may be something like SCAT for CTY. 2nd grader taking 4th grade Aspire, etc....Hopefully, it will work out and give us low cost option for achievement testing.

    Very informative again.Thank you. Can you please tell me more about CTY, TIP NUMAT, what are these?

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