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    Originally Posted by uppervalley
    If you want to figure out the causal effects of practice and talent, you need a natural experiment that causes one to vary but not the other.
    Agreed! Also, some may say the same about giftedness and opportunity.

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    Well yes, but considering the absolute dearth of studies about similarities between parents and kids which are able to actually isolate nurture by looking at adoptive families only (you know the kind: Stop press! Researchers find that children of parents who exercise a lot exercise more than children of parents who don't! Researchers come to breathtaking conclusion that parental role models matter and urge parents to exercise more in front of their kids!) we will not see a lot of these anytime soon either.

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