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From the description of the test:

http://www.testresearch.nl/sonroe/fairassee.html

An objection to a nonverbal test like the SON-R might be that the concept of intelligence is substantially narrowed by the exclusion of verbal ability tests. However by including tests for concrete and abstract reasoning - areas that often have a verbal form in general intelligence tests - the contents of the SON-R are not limited to typical performance tests. Although the test can be administered without using language, this does not exclude the importance of verbal abilities for the evaluation of intelligence with the SON-R, as is illustrated by the correlations of the test with report marks and tests for language skills. Verbal intelligence tests often require specific knowledge learned in school. When the main object of using a test is to make predictions concerning school achievement, the absence of verbal tests in the SON-R might reduce its predictive power. If, however, the goal of intelligence assessment is to distinguish between possible causes of poor school performance, a test that is not dependent on specific knowledge is more appropriate. In such cases use of the SON-R is not only indicated for special groups such as deaf and immigrant children, but also suited for children with no specific problems in the areas of language and communication.

I have to find a school .... Hopefully a gifted school will open sometime during next year where I live. I still have to do a little bit of school hunting now.

Not being Dutch and not speaking very fluently.... unlikely although 'I have given this a thought.


They should....

Thats more or less my idea ...


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What about claiming that 'Spanish Culture' is you orrientation, and saying that trying to learn in a language/culture that isn't her home one is damaging her self-seteem? And that you've only recently come to realize how important this is to you that she maintain her Spanish heritage?

Sounds far-fetched, but I believe that was the intent of the law-loophole, yes?

Congratulations! Those are wonderful numbers. Look at her VIQ and Dutch is not even her 1st language!

Grinity: that won't work, I am afraid .... I think however that now I have a much better chance to have her accelerated until the GT school opens.

LMom: the test measures somehow the verbal reasoning but it is 'language free' and on top the tester speaks Spanish

I am still thinking if I should go for the SB5 or let it for the time being ...

Why not? The only reason not to is expense... It sounds like your DD enjoyed the testing experience.

Because despite her nice IQ she is underachieving big time! Would you believe that she claims she cannot count more than 20???

She can add or substract in her head (small numbers), deduced all by herself that n+0 = n, understands the concept of multiplication and division, fractions....
But counting more than 20... is too difficult for her

Her vocabulary is as well smaller than one would expect for such an IQ. She does have a big vocabulary... spread over 4 languages! Spanish is the strongest but she lacks a lot of cultural exposure to it, and I think this would be reflected in the test.

SO I was thinking if it would be a good idea to work on those issues first before any further testing.

I think you are right. It makes sense to wait, since you already have the papers you need to get to gt programs. DS5 is bilingual and the psychologist said that in order to get his real VIQ we would have to test him again when he is 7+.