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I try to keep it narrow- intellectually gifted by definition means attaining a certain score on an IQ test. 130+ seems to be the US public school standard.

Is there a discernible difference between a child with a result of 128 and another with a result of 130- I doubt it. There are probably major differences between a child at 128 and another at 150. Mine is in between the 128 and the 150, and I will need to advocate for his education. However, he's not so out of sync that traditional school doesn't work- which is what I think parents of pg kids are facing.

I use these differently in different cohorts. Here on this forum and with other more HG parents, I use "bright" for the high-achieving to mildly gifted group and "gifted" for the higher LOG folk. In everyday life I often use them interchangeably because there is usually no awareness of LOG. Well that is when I engage in any such conversation because I more often avoid conversing on the topic with others.

My understanding is that gifted meant that you are in the 99.5% plus IQ range, which translates to 150 IQ. Is that a wrong definition?

Well people in that range are certainly gifted but 130 is a more usual cut-off. The Davidson Institute which says it caters to PG has a cut off of 145 or 150depending on the test. By the time you get to 145 you are 3 standard deviations above average. How many people do you know with an IQ of 55 who would flourish in a mainstream classroom WITHOUT any help.

The 'US Public school' and many G&T programs definition is 2 standard deviations above average or 130 (SD=15) which nets roughly the top 2 percent.

Hi VR00- 150 IQ is higher than the 99.5%. More like 99.9% and something past that. 150+ is verging on "profoundly gifted."

I think "gifted" in terms of "meaning" is subject to individual interpretation, while gifted in terms of "definition" is objective (at least as it applies to intellectual giftedness). It's typically an IQ of 130+ in US public schools. The top 98th percentile, give or take.

It's possible and common for children to be gifted in some areas, typical in others, and may even be lagging in some spots. The 130 IQ cutoff (full scale) is less informative than the subtest scores.

I was referring to http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx for the percentiles.

Just got the report on the TONi-3 test (non-verbal intelligence) it just states 99 percentile plus. Based on recommendation of the group will go ahead with the WISC-IV test.

Thanks!

This thread shows the importance of understanding there may be many equally valid views and definitions... and taking the time to see what knowledge base and definitions others are operating with, especially when advocating for our children.

I think you missed a 9 when you read it.

99th is good score. I hope the wisc goes well.

Got definitions from our school district:

- Gifted 98%
- Highly Gifted- 99.5%

I think this translates to 130 and 150 IQ respectively.