Gifted Issues Discussion homepage Forums Identification, Testing & Assessment Correlation between high verbal and gender?

Irena, my DD16 got in trouble for her rather dark creative writing when she was in elementary school. She was sent to the office (didn't call me in though). She got the impression that they were concerned with her psychological well-being.

Just for the record, her abilities are rather even, and if anything, her math & spatial relation abilities are better than her verbal. Of course, that is just one kid. My eldest also had rather even abilities on the WISC and in SAT/ACT scores, but her strengths are clearly more on the verbal side of things.

Are you dealing with school staff who show gender bias?

FWIW, my DD follows the 'stereotype' for the WISC IV showing a disparity of >99.9 VCI (150) and 99.9 PRI (145)
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on achievement WJ-III the pattern reversed - only 136 for broad reading but 168 for broad maths with a 178 on maths calc skills.

I also saw her 'playing' with the blocks (enjoying having a problem to mull over and investigating the potential of the blocks) instead of just doing the task. She did every one but not in the allotted time so I would take the VCI/PRI disparity with a grain of salt.

We haven't done any school testing so no idea where he would score there. All we have is private testing.

On WISC IV my DS6 scores significantly higher on VCI than PRI. PRI is nearly 2SD below VCI. (A similar but less extreme difference was found on WPPSI III 2yrs previous.) Due to visual requirements of PRI on Block Design and Picture Concepts, tester feels this score is an underrepresentation. My son has a number of 2e issues that make accurate testing challenging.

Interestingly on Achievement testing (WIAT and WJ) both Reading and Math scores hit the 99.9 to >99.9 zone which make it difficult to tease out which is the greater strength.

He is reporting at his young age that he thinks he is "mathy" and loves math, however, I have witnessed his joy in learning words from infancy. I think he is very blessed to have talent in both domains.

Our 7 year old DS tested at a very high level in both math and verbal, but is slightly higher in math. We are finding it is easier from a curriculum standpoint to provide acceleration for him in math, although outside of school he is a very advanced and prolific reader.

DS9 VCI >99.9, PRI 99 - highest subtests Vocab and Matrix Reasoning with Similarities and Comp just one point lower. All Cogat sections high - verbal slightly higher than the others.

MAPS - reading always a bit higher than math and does best on reasoning type tests - ie science reasoning and rhetorical section in English on Explore.