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    #169275 09/26/13 05:11 PM
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    So, everyone, just thought I'd update you all because it's been a saga. I got DS's WISC IV scores today smile She calculated the GAI. And the scores were a bit different than her preliminary scores (granted DS was bouncing off of her walls and she was literally just skimming the scores and telling me them). DS's GAI is 139 and his FSIQ is 128. Sure hope the school is still taking GAI for ATP. Like I said in another thread, he got a 4.4 grade equivalent for WJ Applied Problems Achievement Test so that is now 2 1/2 grade levels above his present grade so that should help. He was above grade level on everything but spelling.

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    What great news!! Those scores took so much to get! Now I hope they help you get closer to what he needs. smile

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    Great news!

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    Sound much closer to what your gut was telling you, I imagine? Knew you must've been caching karma last year for something.

    I almost wonder that a passionate dislike for intellectual boredom isn't so much a characteristic of intelligence as it is a causitive factor.

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    Wow! Congrats, Irena! Great news!!! Hope the scores help!

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    Thanks all! I have to say I am positively astounded at his working memory score. This is a kid who, when first tested, was like borderline working memory or something. I was really worried about it b/c even though it can be taken out via GAI - I wondered if his working memory is so bad how will he function in the world? Then he was given the SBV a little under a year later and it went up to average(low average) (unfortunately no GAI equivalent for SBV so that and processing brough down his SBCV scores I think). He tested with the WISC IV again at 1 year and half later and it comes in at superior? WTH? I am so surprised I am half tempted to call the tester and ask if she is sure she didn't have his score confused with someone elses... I mean, I am thrilled but really surprised. He didn't do any formal programs (like cog-med, pace)to help it (though I looked into it). He has done VT and, over the summer, an intense course of that combination tomatis/proprioception/reflex integration therapy. But I didn't think such therapy would affect his WM much. I have to say I don't think I see much improvement in it behaviorally...

    Also, He scored "high average in the "Children's Category Test" which, in the report, is labled as a test of "Higher Cortical/Executive Functions" and the tester briefly described it in the report as a "measure of concept formation and mental flexibility" but she didn't say much more about this test. What I find interesting and suprising is the label of it as a test of "Executive Function" and my kid scoring a "high averge" on it... Again, executive function in his everyday behavior seems to be a weakness of his... Does anyone know anything about this test and what it means? Just wondering. Just seems odd.

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    Just a theory on WM - maybe mental desk space was cleared some because he isn't having to compensate for the areas the therapies addressed.


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    Originally Posted by KJP
    Just a theory on WM - maybe mental desk space was cleared some because he isn't having to compensate for the areas the therapies addressed.

    I think in that sort of analogy, too. Just like executive function, how bad is executive function, really, if part of someone's mind/attention is constantly monitoring muscle and joint placement and making small corrections because automatic stability is not being accomplished by the tendons and ligaments? Likely there is a super-developed EF and WM, it's just been a bit busy.

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    Congratulations Irena!!! You must feel so relieved to finally have the scores, and to see them align with what you knew in your gut all along smile

    Re working memory improving, our ds' also improved with time/age - and no extra work on it - we thought about it and honestly simply didn't have any time left in his day to do it! Our neuropsych said that working memory is the one part of the skills tested on IQ tests that can and sometimes does improve as children mature.

    Originally Posted by Irena
    What I find interesting and suprising is the label of it as a test of "Executive Function" and my kid scoring a "high averge" on it... Again, executive function in his everyday behavior seems to be a weakness of his... Does anyone know anything about this test and what it means? Just wondering. Just seems odd.

    OK, this is a totally non-professional non-educated guess... but... fwiw... think about the EF skills of totally neurotypical average everyday kids the age of your ds. They really aren't all that great! So the bar for "high average" compared to same-age peers might not be as high as we as parents would expect it to be. Just a thought!

    Have you shared the test results with the school yet?

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    Originally Posted by polarbear
    Congratulations Irena!!! You must feel so relieved to finally have the scores, and to see them align with what you knew in your gut all along smile

    Re working memory improving, our ds' also improved with time/age - and no extra work on it - we thought about it and honestly simply didn't have any time left in his day to do it! Our neuropsych said that working memory is the one part of the skills tested on IQ tests that can and sometimes does improve as children mature.

    Originally Posted by Irena
    What I find interesting and suprising is the label of it as a test of "Executive Function" and my kid scoring a "high averge" on it... Again, executive function in his everyday behavior seems to be a weakness of his... Does anyone know anything about this test and what it means? Just wondering. Just seems odd.

    OK, this is a totally non-professional non-educated guess... but... fwiw... think about the EF skills of totally neurotypical average everyday kids the age of your ds. They really aren't all that great! So the bar for "high average" compared to same-age peers might not be as high as we as parents would expect it to be. Just a thought!

    Have you shared the test results with the school yet?

    polarbear

    LOL - you may be on to something here!

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