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    Originally Posted by 22B
    What I'd really like to know, though, is this. What are all the species of talking cartoon animals which have non-talking cartoon pet dogs.

    YES! My dd12 asks this question at least once a week.

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    I loved the movie and the cartoon is cute. Many believe the original books have a very icky racist/colonialist subtext.

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    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    Originally Posted by Mana
    The man with the yellow hat has some serious psychological issues.

    I'm not certain this is true.

    He appears to be in no distress and his actions also seem to be causing no harm to others.

    I think that he would best be characterized as an eccentric rather than labeled with an Axis I or Axis II disorder.

    You mean aside from keeping an exotic animal (does he HAVE a permit for this???) that continuously causes suffering and property damage everywhere the two of them go?

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    Originally Posted by LNEsMom
    I also find the original story to be somewhat disturbing with its colonialist imagery. We should really be concerned about the man with the yellow hat who literally abducts George and smuggles him back to New York. He is the really criminal in this tale!

    ITA. This is actually a reason I avoid the Thomas series: the running ownership of the anthropormphic trains through a colonialist dominion. Well, that and the emphasis that the trains have value only if they do Sir Topham Hatt's bidding. What kind of a message is that for children--"accept authority unquestioningly, no matter how pointless or plain wrong your instructions are" or, in more Trekky terms, "resistance is futile"? *Shudder*

    I spent a bit of time while pregnant reading through children's books at the bookstore to get a sense of which series I liked. It was surprising to me how many books contained what I consider damaging themes--colonialism, class warfare, social Darwinism, blindly following authority, relying on others' judgment to form a self-concept...the list goes on. Even innocuous books considerd classics, like the "Little Bear" series (illustrated by Maurice Sendack), can have horrible messages. I recall one in which the mother bear delivers to her child in response to his imaginary play at being an astronaut, "You're just a fat little bear. You can't fly."'(I paraphrase.) Talk about unsupportive parenting. Take a hike, Mother Bear, you dog in the manger.

    Ametrine, please excuse my rant! I may be young chronologically, but I've got the fuddy-duddiness of an octogenarian. smile


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    Originally Posted by Ametrine
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    But, in fairness, maybe George is an amputee. After all, the origin of his American life was kidnapping and forced confinement. Who knows what else that seemingly benevolent man inflicted on our little primate protagonist to bend him to his will.

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    Excellent point. I'm surprised PETA has allowed the MWYH to continue to exploit George. Perhaps he needs better representation?

    Maybe a call to Alicia Silverstone is in order. wink


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    Originally Posted by aquinas
    Originally Posted by LNEsMom
    I also find the original story to be somewhat disturbing with its colonialist imagery. We should really be concerned about the man with the yellow hat who literally abducts George and smuggles him back to New York. He is the really criminal in this tale!

    ITA. This is actually a reason I avoid the Thomas series: the running ownership of the anthropormphic trains through a colonialist dominion. Well, that and the emphasis that the trains have value only if they do Sir Topham Hatt's bidding. What kind of a message is that for children--"accept authority unquestioningly, no matter how pointless or plain wrong your instructions are" or, in more Trekky terms, "resistance is futile"? *Shudder*

    I spent a bit of time while pregnant reading through children's books at the bookstore to get a sense of which series I liked. It was surprising to me how many books contained what I consider damaging themes--colonialism, class warfare, social Darwinism, blindly following authority, relying on others' judgment to form a self-concept...the list goes on. Even innocuous books considerd classics, like the "Little Bear" series (illustrated by Maurice Sendack), can have horrible messages. I recall one in which the mother bear delivers to her child in response to his imaginary play at being an astronaut, "You're just a fat little bear. You can't fly."'(I paraphrase.) Talk about unsupportive parenting. Take a hike, Mother Bear, you dog in the manger.

    Ametrine, please excuse my rant! I may be young chronologically, but I've got the fuddy-duddiness of an octogenarian. smile

    You know what books I love? Mo Willems. I think he is a genius. We just checked out Leonardo the Terrible Monster from the library and dd6 loved it. I think the pigeon is hysterical too.


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    Willems is fantastic, I agree! Hard to say whether he's writing for parents or children.


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    Originally Posted by JonLaw
    Originally Posted by Mana
    The man with the yellow hat has some serious psychological issues.

    I'm not certain this is true.

    He appears to be in no distress and his actions also seem to be causing no harm to others.

    I think that he would best be characterized as an eccentric rather than labeled with an Axis I or Axis II disorder.

    Eccentric - isn't that one of those words we use to describe rich people with psychopathology? The man with the yellow hat certainly seems live a fabulous life.

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    Originally Posted by aquinas
    Willems is fantastic, I agree! Hard to say whether he's writing for parents or children.

    Well, I for sure appreciate his books, but the great thing is my kids do too. Even my 12 yr. old loves Knuffle Bunny and its sequels!

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