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    My understanding is that they're heavy on homework there and possibly rigid about every child being gifted. I could be wrong there; maybe it was Stratford that says that every child is gifted. But they both have high homework loads.

    Harker is expensive and super-intensive but good for gifties. But my understanding from a fair number of parents (6 or more) and one student my son's age is that it's very, very intensive. The student's stories put my son off it completely and a parent told me that you have to accept that Harker is your life. Her kid was in the middle school at the time.

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    Yes, Harker also doesn't guarantee sibling admissions, either.

    Have you looked through Bay Area Parent? They always have a ton of school listings.

    But you're correct that school options for gifties are limited around here. It's weird, given the environment.

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    My husband went to a Helios open house a few months ago and came back with glowing reports. It sounds like their curriculum is based on unit studies and is very kid driven. I was so excited until he told me the tuition. frown

    Have you checked out the Berkeley Parents Network (http://parents.berkeley.edu/) for school recs?

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    Originally Posted by ashley
    Beyond that, there are other "second tier" schools that pile up academics in the place of all round development. Then there are schools with religious affiliation which I am not looking at.
    What seems to work for all the gifted families in my area is to get their children into afterschool programs that cater to gifted kids and thereby make up for the things lacking in their schooling.

    Well...I wouldn't call my kids' school, which I mentioned in a PM, "second tier." frown IMO, that's not really a nice thing to say, and it also isn't true. We've done day camps at different private schools around here and have friends whose kids attend them, and we've been impressed with what we've seen, especially in terms of extra non-academic activities.

    And also IMO, I don't see the need to stratify private schools around here. We've seen the results of that in NYC and with colleges. One of the things I like best about this area is that we have, literally, dozens of K-8 private schools. Admissions mania is decidedly lacking (until high school, but there are middle college options for high schoolers). All the schools cater to different types of students. Everything depends on what you're looking for. No, many don't have services for gifted kids and that sucks. But they're private schools and that's their decision.

    I understand how frustrated you feel, because I feel the same way. But dumping on other schools because they aren't Harker or Pinewood won't help. And the workload at Harker is very, very high. Harker is also notorious for its hyper-competitive atmosphere (not as bad on the primary school campus, I think, though).

    If you're really this unhappy, you should consider moving closer to Los Altos or Palo Alto or up the peninsula close to Nueva. Or enroll your child in a language immersion school. But please don't dump on other schools because they aren't catering to what you want, okay? Challenger and Stratford and Monticello and the Carden schools and etc. don't have some kind of a obligation to be exactly what you're looking for. smile

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    Hi Ashley, I actually thought you were painting ALL the schools around here that aren't Harker or Pinewood with with one brush. Maybe you were feeling frustrated. Like I said, I understand that feeling. But the post was quite sweepingly negative.

    It's possible that you may be looking for too much in one school. Harker offers a lot, but you've said that your son's chances for admission are low. So you may need to adjust your expectations.

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    Again, sorry for any unintended offense. My post was a rant because I think that for the astronomical fee that these schools charge, they should be able to provide "the works" (there are families in America whose annual income pretax is less than the school fees here and there are some universities which are cheaper than these elementary schools!).
    The funny thing is, I have already decided that I will choose one of the schools named in this thread (non-Harker and non-Pinewood) for the upcoming year and spend what little free time I have driving my child to extracurricular activities, if needed.
    PS: I have already adjusted my expectations, but I might be able to become an adviser to someone with a business plan to start a "gifted school" in the bay area about what the actual market demands are (just kidding!).

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