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    There seem to be a lot of dichotomies with those on the spectrum - obsessively clean/neat OR really really not, is another that comes to mind.

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    Originally Posted by MumOfThree
    From my understanding it is extremely common to see aspergers with either dyslexia OR hyperlexia.

    I just find the Eides conclusions and Casanova's minicolumn research so compelling to accept those as correct.

    To me an auditory processing disorder could get you exactly enough symptoms to qualify in the DSM4 checklist for dyslexia and aspergers. (Hyperlexia is a completely different matter.)

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    Hyperlexia... I'm sure I've seen that term before, but that totally describes DS9 with PDD-NOS.

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    Despite hyperlexic children's precocious reading ability, they may struggle to communicate. Often, hyperlexic children will have a precocious ability to read but will learn to speak only by rote and heavy repetition, and may also have difficulty learning the rules of language from examples or from trial and error, which may result in social problems. Their language may develop using echolalia, often repeating words and sentences. Often, the child has a large vocabulary and can identify many objects and pictures, but cannot put their language skills to good use. Spontaneous language is lacking and their pragmatic speech is delayed. Hyperlexic children often struggle with Who? What? Where? Why? and How? questions.

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    hee hee. I was just at Wikipedia looking at the same thing! smile

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    Originally Posted by Zen Scanner
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    And those wih dyslexia and asd? :-).

    No way of knowing without doing the test but I suspect that both of my rather quirky girls would do well on this sort of test, and my dyslexic/aspire girl possibly better than her "real" iq score.

    Based on things I've read, I'd be highly suspect of that pairing of diagnoses. Or it goes to illustrate the weakness of the symptom accumulation DSM method vs. identifying underlying causes.

    I pick door number two, myself.


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    I am going on the work of Tony Attwood, and the reality I see before me. If there is a dx I doubt it's the dyslexia, but given she does have a literacy that requires support she needs the label.

    And I am also firmly in the camp that believes that CAPD is most often a symptom of ADHD or ASD, not a free standing condition.

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    I suppose ultimately, it is more a question of if your kid is getting the services she needs. I like trying to see how the brain research and causal bits go together. There are good objective auditory screening tools for CAPD which loops back to the OP oddly.

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    Recently I read something about asd, which was not new to me exactly, but the particular wording caused a real "aha" moment for me that made me think that it explained a lot of my DDs literacy struggle/dyslexia. And certainly I think it's widely recognized that there are different types of dyslexia, but its unclear what type she has, the type we have in writing doesn't make sense to me as it describes as her strength sometjigthyvwas painstakingly taught over years of intensive intervention. My DD seemed to luck out and get BOTH mine and DHs weaknesses.

    Likewise the areas of weakness that lead to her CAPD diagnosis were probably influenced by her aspergers, while other parts of the test she scored in the gifted range (the diagnostic criteria is two related subtexts below the 2nd percentile, which she has, the rest is normal to gifted). She's been a very hard kid to peg, for anyone.

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    I am with the Eides on this too. I think it is pretty improbably to have both asd and dyslexia but more likely to be misdiagnosed.

    Also, I have a son with CAPD and he has no ADHD or ASD symptoms. He is pretty clearly dyslexic.

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